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Brad Cox 04-22-2024 11:57 AM

How Many New Acoustic Finger Picking Songs To Learn at One Time
 
I am a intermediate player. I have about 8 fun fingerpicking songs memorized and play them pretty good, at least for my family audience, but I have 6 great fingerpicking songs I want to learn. All at the intermediate level. Don't want to be overwhelmed trying to learn too many songs at once. My thoughts are to start out with two, play them fluently, then tackle the next two. Any thoughts from anyone that's been down this road before would be appreciated.

TheGITM 04-22-2024 12:01 PM

It varies for me, but typically I will focus on one at a time. I tend to repeat, repeat, repeat if I hit something that is particularly challenging. I like to get one thing nailed before moving on, but sometimes it's also good to flip to something else for a while. So, for me, it's mostly one at a time, but almost never more than two...

mr. beaumont 04-22-2024 12:02 PM

Only your brain can tell you what's too much, but I generally don't mind having 2-3 pots on the stove at a time.

If these are tunes you're needing to memorize note for note, you might need to cut back depending on what you find you can retain.

ljguitar 04-22-2024 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Cox (Post 7448324)
I am a intermediate player. I have about 8 fun fingerpicking songs memorized and play them pretty good, at least for my family audience, but I have 6 great fingerpicking songs I want to learn. All at the intermediate level. Don't want to be overwhelmed trying to learn too many songs at once. My thoughts are to start out with two, play them fluently, then tackle the next two. Any thoughts from anyone that's been down this road before would be appreciated.

Hi Brad
They all get 'introduced' one at a time, and then as one develops I introduce the subsequent ones. I have had strings of them 4-5 songs long in various stages.

Mine go through stages:
  1. New and learning
  2. Arranged and starting techniques
  3. Not ready for prime time, but ok for my wife & gigging partner (they add advice)
  4. Performable, but not finalized
  5. Tweaked
  6. Introduced in public
  7. Revised - go back to the arranged stage…

I'm not sure what I do would work for you. I've been playing more than 60 years and have a process that developed and grew with me over decades.




Coler 04-23-2024 03:11 PM

I like to have 3 on the go. Tends to be one that I am learning/starting out with. One that I can get through but stumbling in parts if not everywhere and one that is coming up to scratch.

Ideally the one I am learning moves through that progression, and ends up in my repertoire.

However if I get stuck or bored I will abandon ship and go to something else, and I may return to whatever I got stuck on in the future.

I probably devote about 50% of my playing time to learning new stuff and 50% to playing through my repertoire.

TBman 04-23-2024 03:23 PM

I have been having a good time working on a couple of harder tunes for my skill level and at the same time play through a bunch of easier tunes. When my hand is too tired to work on the harder stuff I can still play the easier things forever.

Lately I have been playing easier things from 50 Easy Classical Pieces and in between the easy stuff I have been also working on Evocation (2nd part is hard for me), Steve Howe's Mood for a Day (resurrected from a 48 odd year layoff), Lagrima Prelude by Tarrega and Sor's Study In B Minor.

I also have other things to work on by Marianne Vedral, Wolfgang Vedral and other finger style players like Stephen Wake, Lance Allen, and Masaaki Kishibe, but I don't want to overreach things.

Since my stroke back in 2017 it has been very difficult for me to memorize anything, but I managed to memorize Lagrima and Evocation is coming along too. Things that I had memorized prior to the stroke (Mood For a Day, etc) stuck around luckily.

I think working on multiple tunes is the most rewarding, keeps you fresh and interested in the hobby.

Bluenose 04-23-2024 03:55 PM

I wouldn't bother memorizing songs. If you can sight read tab or standard you can play hundreds of songs without having to memorize them. Learn some theory and work on your ear so that you can hear something and know what's going on rhythmically and harmonically. To me that's more beneficial than learning to play something by rote. .

Charlie Bernstein 04-23-2024 04:00 PM

There's not one right answer. We're all different. Do what makes sense to you.

And keep it fun.

TBman 04-23-2024 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluenose (Post 7448929)
....... Learn some theory and work on your ear so that you can hear something and know what's going on rhythmically and harmonically. To me that's more beneficial than learning to play something by rote. .

That doesn't work with finger style.

The Bard Rocks 04-23-2024 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TBman (Post 7448949)
That doesn't work with finger style.

Does for me.

TBman 04-23-2024 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bard Rocks (Post 7449029)
Does for me.

I'm talking about good music TBR, :D :D

rick-slo 04-23-2024 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Cox (Post 7448324)
I am a intermediate player. I have about 8 fun fingerpicking songs memorized and play them pretty good, at least for my family audience, but I have 6 great fingerpicking songs I want to learn. All at the intermediate level. Don't want to be overwhelmed trying to learn too many songs at once. My thoughts are to start out with two, play them fluently, then tackle the next two. Any thoughts from anyone that's been down this road before would be appreciated.

Yes, learn to play what you are working on fluently. If that limits you to less pieces to work on so be it. You will progress faster this way to play with precision and feeling.

Deliberate1 04-26-2024 07:38 AM

Brad, I am five years in - an easier "measure" for me than a measure of accomplishment. Like you, I am drawn to fingerstyle. And, over time, I have made progress with simpler songs with repetitive lines (eg. Green Green Rocky Road). And with songs I have written.

This week, I have been working on that classic, Vestapol, relying on various YT instructional vids. And what I have found, as I have in the past, is that my brain tells me when it has had enough - when I cannot seem to absorb any more, or cannot process a particular measure or two. And it gets frustrating. That is when I know it is time to stop or move on. And it is not at all unusual for me to come back the next day, and find that I go right through the roadblock and move forward. I think that the brain, at least mine, requires time to process what I throw at it. And it will do so in its own sweet time.

Enjoy the ride.

David

zuzu 04-26-2024 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bard Rocks (Post 7449029)
Does for me.

Does for me also. And most any banjo picker worth his salt.

Arapaho G 04-26-2024 09:12 AM

Personally, I do one at a time. Depending on the level of difficulty I'll spend a week to 2 weeks learning and then memorizing the song before I move on to something else. All the while playing those songs I wish to maintain. I've found that I can only maintain 10 - 12 songs in memorization and playing proficiently at 1 time. That really depends on how much time you care to invest.


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