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View Poll Results: What is tonal quality MOSTLY derived from ? | |||
Wood | 14 | 14.14% | |
Finish | 0 | 0% | |
Construction | 64 | 64.65% | |
All equally | 22 | 22.22% | |
Jury is still out | 4 | 4.04% | |
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 99. You may not vote on this poll |
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A number of years ago the local woodworking club held a contest where each contestant got a single 8' 2x4 and could make anything from it they wanted. There were doll houses, model train, jewelry boxes, and the like. A local luthier made an acoustic guitar. Top, back, neck, braces... all of the wood parts came from that single construction-grade 2x4. I played it. It sounded really good. Not just OK... it sounded like a good high quality guitar.
Wood matters, but it plays a distant second in how a guitar will sound.. |
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Not on the poll choice list..
The player. |
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Where's the like button?
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External factors were not considered.
Does a player really add to a guitars tonal quality, or is the better player, just able to pull more of what is already there, from the instrument. Does a better driver add to the performance of a race car, or just take better advantage of what is already engineered into the car ? In both cases I have to say the latter. Dan Last edited by DanPanther; 06-14-2014 at 09:35 PM. |
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Bob Taylor is a smart business man with a (very good) point to make, if you ask me. It's a pallet--there's something wrong about speculating whether or not the pallet just happened to be high-grade quartersawn tonewood. Even if they sifted through many pallets to find decent specimens of pine, it's a pallet! We're not talking about perfectly quartersawn, stiff instrument-grade spruce. I'd take good construction miles ahead of anything else in those poll, with wood in a distant second.
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Frank:
Good point, but as Darrwhit says, no one is demanding pallet wood guitars. Martin offers a Cherry guitar in their sustainable series, but I don't see the doors being beaten down by demand. And if you read a bit about the pallet guitars you see that at least some of them have 6 piece tops of unknown species, and, of course, the backs are multi-piece and of mixed species. So if they sound good because of the wood, let's find out what those top wood species are and what is the best way to mix species for back and sides!! Ed |
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I think it just goes to show that taylor can put any price they want on any crap they want and people will buy it.
He built a guitar out of pallets and sold it for more than his regularly built guitars. Yes indeed he is a smart business man |
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Just a thought
If Martin builds a D-45 and it sounds bad would they sell it , our put it in the wood-chipper. I vote wood |
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I agree with most all that has been said. Of course it can all get screwed up in the build and build is essential. What has not been answered though with the wood is a great looking and quarter sawn piece of Adirondack were to be used for a guitar, and it was a dull, and thuddy sounding piece of wood, so would the resulting guitar. Not the best build can change that.
Each is a key element to the build but each wood, finish, design, and build has its own limits but if you do not start with good wood, all of the rest, no matter how good, cannot a stellar guitar make. Frank Sanns |
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"External factors were not considered."
The player is not external, he/she is elemental.. just as a bow and player are to a violin. No player... no sound. Different players get different sounds out of the same guitar. I have cheap guitars that rival any of the expensive customs I have had from "revered" makers. I firmly believe a great sounding guitar is rare and is not necessarily the luthiers cause. Elements just come together. I have played plenty of expensive dogs from exalted makers. |
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Sure you would. |
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You wrote; "Elements just come together." Would that be all by themselves ? Whatever is put into the instrument, is already there, it's takes the accomplished artist to bring it to it's ultimate potential. Dan |
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Everything PLUS & esspecially amount it is played.
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