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Old 10-14-2014, 03:44 PM
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Martin Marquise strings will take some of the brightness down due to silk winding at the end of the string on the bridge. I've enjoyed the mellower sound of these strings, I prefer the 80/20 Bronze, settles in after an hour or two of playing, great tone, long lasting, wipe your strings down at end of playing. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/searc...rquise+strings
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I sometimes put Silk & Steel on my 1996 Taylor 412. They are a nice mellow change. In addition they are lighter than my D'Addario Custom Lights. I do a lot of heavy bending.
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Old 10-14-2014, 04:19 PM
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Try adding a Martin guitar to those strings!
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Old 10-14-2014, 04:24 PM
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Isn't it the other way around? My 814 came with the 80/20, but I switched to PB for a warmer tone, love it.
That's what I did too.
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Old 10-14-2014, 04:40 PM
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Try adding a Martin guitar to those strings!
I am fortunate enough to have a custom HD35 clone.

John Doerr from Kitchener Ontario built it for me in '87. My Dad has the first guitar John built in the early 70's as well as a D28 style of John's.

John Doerr is a very good custom builder, but I would expect he has retired as he has to be in his 80's by now.

Does anyone else have one of John Doerr's instruments? I know he also built some 5 string banjos and madolins as well.
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Old 10-14-2014, 04:50 PM
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Pretty much what Glenn said before: When I changed out the tusq saddle for a bone one, it lost a bit of high end, gained a little low. I'd add that it could take a couple tries with bone saddles to get a really uniform saddle that brings out what you want to hear or at least it took me a couple. The 2nd one I got from Bob Colossi and it was fine.

I also don't usually follow the paradigm of using 'bronze-based' for flattops and steel/nickel based for archtops. I do the opposite and use nickle for flattops and that also mellows it a bit. I like PB's on it, but I like La Bella #52's on it better which are 50/50 steel/nickel. Probably any matching size to what you like in nickel based will at least change things and you can decide if you like it more or less.
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Old 10-14-2014, 04:59 PM
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I'll second (or third, or fourth, or whatever) a bone saddle. I got one from Colosi for my 414ce and it made a very noticeable difference with reducing some of the brightness. I also use elixir phosphor bronze lights to help mellow it out a little more. I have been very interested in putting some of the HD strings on it to see what they do.
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Old 10-14-2014, 05:08 PM
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Anyone try the Martin Retros? Are those good for taming brightness?
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Old 10-14-2014, 05:11 PM
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I would try Thomastik Plectrums. They are very mellow, not bright phosphor bronze strings
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Old 10-14-2014, 05:26 PM
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Isn't it the other way around? My 814 came with the 80/20, but I switched to PB for a warmer tone, love it.
Mythology!

80/20's will be brighter for the first few hours of play...but they'll relax much quicker than PB and settle in much darker.

Taylors come with 80/20's. So people fall in love, put on new strings (usually their favorite PB) and wonder how things got so bright
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Mythology!

80/20's will be brighter for the first few hours of play...but they'll relax much quicker than PB and settle in much darker.

Taylors come with 80/20's. So people fall in love, put on new strings (usually their favorite PB) and wonder how things got so bright
Guess you'd better write to D'Addario and tell them their website contains myths then:

http://www.daddario.com/DADProductsA...a-c6c9bcc78e4c
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I have!

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Anyone try the Martin Retros? Are those good for taming brightness?
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Try the martin retros. They are pretty mellow.
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The Martin Monels do a pretty good job
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I second Monel's.
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Old 10-14-2014, 05:42 PM
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Taylor no longer uses 80/20 strings. They all ship with PB's now.
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Old 10-14-2014, 05:46 PM
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When did they change? Mine's a 2011, bought in 2012...definitely still had 80/20's on it when I bought it.

Interesting...learn something new every day.
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