The Acoustic Guitar Forum

Go Back   The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 08-30-2011, 05:59 PM
rodmeister rodmeister is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 455
Default "Guitar makers to run out of wood in 10 years"

http://rocknewsdesk.com/world-news/g...10-years/2771/
http://www.allaxess.com/guitar-blog/...wood-shortage/

We won't literally run out of premium woods because prices will rise as shortages develop, but mahogany and rosewood might be priced out of most buyers, and more guitars will be made of cheaper, more abundant woods. Any other consequences you can think of, such as used or vintage guitar prices increasing and more composite materials?
__________________
2011 Gibson J-45 Standard, Natural Finish
1968 Yamaha FG-150 Red Label
2011 Traveler Ultra Light Guitar
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-30-2011, 06:05 PM
ewalling ewalling is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 20,772
Default

Well, I just picked up a great Glenn Campbell Reissue Ovation with the lyrachord bowl. I think we'll always have some excellent-sounding guitars, even if they're not built with traditional materials.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-30-2011, 06:19 PM
BluesBelly BluesBelly is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes
Posts: 1,622
Default

Necessity is the mother of invention............at some point someone will come up with a concept that will blow current technology out if the water. Our beloved traditional instruments will remain just that but the new wave of instruments will be an undeniable step forward in sound dynamics and design. It is happening in all other areas and music will not be immune. Cell phones are a good example as well as Ovation guitars and the composite materials that are appearing in graphite and similar guitars.

Blues
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-30-2011, 06:42 PM
Tim McKnight's Avatar
Tim McKnight Tim McKnight is offline
AGF Sponsor
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Morral, Ohio
Posts: 5,983
Default

I won't run out because I have enough wood stashed for about 2.5 lifetimes
__________________
tim...
www.mcknightguitars.com
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-30-2011, 07:12 PM
tart tart is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 135
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim McKnight View Post
I won't run out because I have enough wood stashed for about 2.5 lifetimes
Is that your plan to corner the guitar building market?!!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-30-2011, 07:14 PM
Brazad Brazad is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 133
Default

Did anyone else notice this brilliant statement in this article?

"Mahogany provides a rich, dark sound, while rosewood creates a bright, brilliant tone."

Ummm, ya think there might be a mix-up there???

Gary
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-30-2011, 07:18 PM
AndyFrank AndyFrank is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,374
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brazad View Post
Did anyone else notice this brilliant statement in this article?

"Mahogany provides a rich, dark sound, while rosewood creates a bright, brilliant tone."

Ummm, ya think there might be a mix-up there???

Gary
Reminds me of the talking heads on TV.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-30-2011, 07:22 PM
magazine magazine is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,236
Default

i bet we will have to turn in our old guitar and reuse the wood, lol
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-30-2011, 07:41 PM
dirkronk dirkronk is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: 3 miles due north of the Alamo
Posts: 3,137
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by magazine View Post
i bet we will have to turn in our old guitar and reuse the wood, lol
Wonder if I should have the Brazilian rosewood body of my old Hofner 1967 classical re-set with a reinforced neck to create an 0 (or would it be 00?) steel string blues guitar. Hmm...

Dirk
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-30-2011, 07:53 PM
hflsmg17317 hflsmg17317 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Where the sun don't ever shine.
Posts: 365
Default

So... say i bought a rosewood guitar... Could i sell it and make a profit someday?

And it may be about time that some other woods get brought into the game. Rosewood and Mahogany are the only woods i hear anyone talk about (at least for back and side woods). I think ovangkol, and some other less known woods sound just as good if not better.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-30-2011, 08:49 PM
harvl harvl is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,727
Default

Like Tim I have WHD and probably enough for at least 3 lifetimes... and I can't seem to stop acquiring more and more...

Harv
__________________
Harvey Leach
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-30-2011, 09:40 PM
gitnoob gitnoob is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Emerald City
Posts: 4,327
Default

Perhaps you guys with 3 lifetimes worth of wood could share it with us have-nots.
__________________

gits: good and plenty
chops: snickers
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-30-2011, 10:35 PM
BusterBFan BusterBFan is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Chicago
Posts: 396
Default

I have no idea about the existing supply of rare hardwoods, but I know a guy who used to be a big time gun nut, including NFA/Title 2 stuff (ie- registered and lawfully owned machine guns), which is a pretty comparable thing in terms of supply ratios.

The short of it is in 1986, the Federal government created a moratorium on civilian transferable machineguns, much like there's a moratorium on the importation of certain woods. You could keep the ones that you had and transfer them (pursuant to the tight regulations in place for that sort of thing), but no more new ones could enter the system.

Up into the mid 1990's, people said there wasn't much to worry about, certain manufacturers had "warehouses full" of grandfathered units... and everyone ticked along happy, until one day, there was no longer a central source for them and everyone was liable to the aftermarket. From that point forward, the prices started to gain 50% a year and did so for quite some time until they finally stabilized in the mid-late 00's... But $2500 units in 1994 are now $15,000 units.

Another example is Cab Medallions. In Chicago and NYC, the price of a grandfathered Cab Medallion runs into the hundreds of thousands of dollars, to the point that investors now buy them as an alternative asset class. Commercial Crabbing Licenses in Florida and Maryland have the same phenomenon going for them.

Once the government fixes a supply of something desirable, it's a certainty that in time, as stocks deplete, values will rise.
Once commercial stocks are completely gone and the market revolves around whatever people are digging out of grandpas closet, the prices can get outright stupid.

Last edited by BusterBFan; 08-30-2011 at 10:41 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-30-2011, 11:34 PM
247hoopsfan 247hoopsfan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 1,089
Default

I have 3 nice cedar trees on my property that would make some really nice tops. Maybe that can be my retirement income......
__________________
1972 Yamaha FG200 My 1st guitar
2003 Yamaha LL500
2007 Larrivee JCL 40th Anniversary Edition
1998 Larrivee OM05-MT All Mahogany
1998 Larrivee D09 Brazilian “Flying Eagle”
1998 Larrivee D10 Brazilian "Flying Eagle"
1990 Goodall Rosewood Standard

https://soundcloud.com/247hoopsfan
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-31-2011, 12:53 AM
sully151 sully151 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Santa Margarita California
Posts: 359
Default

I am going t use this to my advantage...

"but honey, I need this HD28V. The wood won't be around much longer."
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion






All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, The Acoustic Guitar Forum
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=