For those who don't rate the Beatles

[SongwriterFan]

Originally Posted by lone eskimo

Sometimes I like a song that spins a good yarn (Jim Croce was good at this IMHO) and sometimes I like a song that means different things depending on your mood at the time (Bob Dylan and John Lennon were good at this IMHO). The latter is like impressionistic painting- where you may think you're looking at a street in France-but when you get close it's just a bunch of dots and splatter.

I like both...

I prefer story-telling w/o a lot of nonsensical stuff.

However, I do/will make some exceptions if the music/arrangement is great enough. Case in point, "Hotel California" by the Eagles. Now THAT is worthy of an exception. "Eleanor Rigby" is not.

As to something like Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody". . . well, let's just say that THAT song stands alone as something practically indefinable . . . so for that reason alone, it gets a pass, too.

[sweiss]

Originally Posted by pb+j

..................There was always an element of cutesy-poo to the Beatles...........

That's been my biggest gripe about them too.....and I think it's safe to say that McCartney was the source of most of it.

In my opinion, not all, but a lot of McCartneys Beatles, and post Beatles work, is schlocky pop music with mind numbingly bad lyrics. Example from from Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey:

"Admiral Halsey notified me
He had to have a berth or he couldn't get to sea
I had another look and I had a cup of tea and butter pie
(Butter pie)
(The butter wouldn't melt so I put it in the pie)"

There are many more examples even worse than this. Just awful.

[jp2558]

But if it wasn't for that schlocky cutesy poo writing you'd never know you're allowed to write whatever you like.

And if you don't write something because of someone else's rules how would you ever be able to let your audience decide if they like it?

[Tonya7]

The Beatles were only together for about 7 years and had more hits than any band of their time. In those years they were able to change their style of music several times. They wrote Rock songs, blues songs, country songs, and, some styles of their own. In my opinion they have been the best band ever, to date. The best barometer of music success is longevity. 50 plus years so far is pretty good. Any of you that have written songs know how difficult it is to write a great one. They wrote dozens. Start writing people and, see how you do.

[ukejon]

Hmmmm.....this is the Acoustic Guitar Forum/General Acoustic Guitar Discussion section, right?

[Yrksman]

Originally Posted by ukejon

Hmmmm.....this is the Acoustic Guitar Forum/General Acoustic Guitar Discussion section, right?

Much of their output had acoustic guitar backing. Examples, Norwegian Wood (John), Yesterday (Paul), Here Comes the Sun (George). Many of us have been greatly influenced in our acoustic guitar playing by the Beatles.

I could make the list much longer.

[ukejon]

Much of their output had acoustic guitar backing. Examples, Norwegian Wood (John), Yesterday (Paul), Here Comes the Sun (George). Many of us have been greatly influenced in our acoustic guitar playing by the Beatles.

I could make the list much longer.

[flaggerphil]

Originally Posted by pb+j

Is it ok to just be sick and tired of the Beatles?

Naw...

[Jerry D]

Originally Posted by Tonya7

The Beatles were only together for about 7 years...

Correction: the Beatles were only worldwide famous for about 7 years (1964-1970). They were together for about 10 years. The first 2-3 years were spent honing their craft.

[Jerry D]

Originally Posted by sweiss

That's been my biggest gripe about them too.....and I think it's safe to say that McCartney was the source of most of it.

In my opinion, not all, but a lot of McCartneys Beatles, and post Beatles work, is schlocky pop music with mind numbingly bad lyrics. Example from from Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey:

"Admiral Halsey notified me
He had to have a berth or he couldn't get to sea
I had another look and I had a cup of tea and butter pie
(Butter pie)
(The butter wouldn't melt so I put it in the pie)"

There are many more examples even worse than this. Just awful.

Ahhh. But, my friend, the music. The music!