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09-23-2015, 09:13 PM
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I'm not sure if you saw my introduction post from yesterday, but I was in the same boat, considering a 12-string. Found the Ibanez AEL2012 which should fit in your budget brand new. It has the cutaway, and on-board Fishman electronics, however there are only a couple of videos online about it.
 I seriously fell in love with this guitar base on the looks alone, but was supremely frustrated by the fact there is bugger-all video reviews of it online. Not sure if it's what you are after, but it's an option for you.
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09-23-2015, 09:41 PM
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10-07-2015, 07:13 AM
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Hey folks - thanks again for all the advice. I'm now focusing on Guild F-212s in the used market. Resolved myself to up the budget a bit, which also may have to include installing a pickup in whatever I buy. But I did come across something else in a local shop - a 60s-era Epiphone Bard. This one has a trapeze-style tailpiece. I played it at the shop yesterday and it's in good condition, nice low action. But doesn't have a big sound. Definitely a bit more delicate than what I'm after. I am wondering though, whether this will matter as much when plugging in. I also want a 12-string for general enjoyment and potentially recording (with mics, not pickup), so still leaning toward the Guilds but the opportunity to play the guitar before buying is appealing. Thoughts?
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10-07-2015, 09:31 AM
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10-07-2015, 11:39 AM
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10-13-2015, 06:46 AM
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Update - I found a Guild F-212XL Std - made a few years ago in New London - on Reverb.com for a good price and took the plunge. Should be arriving today. Planning to install a K&K under saddle for 12-string. Thanks for all the input. Great community here.
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10-13-2015, 07:20 AM
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My new to me 2011 Taylor GA-3 12 arrives on Thursday. My first 12 string. I'll probably install a K&K Pure p/u in it.
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10-13-2015, 02:50 PM
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10-13-2015, 03:17 PM
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Seagull cheap and strong.
http://santabarbara.craigslist.org/msg/5265334360.html
I have one of these. It might not be the greatest but it plays/sounds really good. And The Canadian woods are strong. I really like mine. Smaller headstock = less weight. I got mine for $180. Had it setup for $50 and have had a good 12 string for years where the neck / action has not moved.
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10-13-2015, 10:56 PM
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In terms of bang for the buck, hard to beat a Yamaha LL-16-12. Solid Englemann top, Solid EIR back & sides, ebony board & bridge, sides are braced and has un-scalloped top bracing...very strong; 5-piece laminated neck that will NEVER warp under all that tension. I also like the body dimensions...it is nominally a dread, but somewhat more compact, curvier, slightly rounder shoulders. I got mine used from Elderly for about $650
Only caveat is the smaller replaceable parts, unless they've come to their senses since I got mine. The saddle, nut and pins were plastic junk and the tuners were terrible. I replaced the nut, saddle & pins with bone and put a set of Grover medium 18:1 tuners on it...good to go now. EDIT oops, I see that you found something....that Guild should be a good one too. I always figured that their 12-strings were Guild's strongest suit. BTW, I also see that you're planning to installed the K&K Pure 12-string (which is just the original full-size K&K Pure Western, with piezos the size of a nickel). I tried this in my Yamaha and it was WAY too hot, too boomy. I kind of have it under control now with a K&K Mach II preamp, but I wish I had used the K&K pure MINI piezos and will probably have to change it one day.
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10-14-2015, 10:23 AM
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10-14-2015, 10:25 AM
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The Guild arrived yesterday and I love it!
Obviously honeymooning but really like the jumbo body size - arguably more comfortable to play than a dread, since it isn't as deep, and even though the strings are light and it's something of a delicate-touch instrument given the nature of the 12-string, the volume and sustain are impressive. Thanks once again to everyone who offered thoughts/ideas.
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