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We played on the Archimedes field and were the #4 alliance captains. Sadly, we lost to both the #1 and #2 alliances and that knocked us all the way out. The team did great, though, and the robot was really good this year.
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Let your son decide. That’s what I am doing with my 10 year old son. He has a ton of natural ability, and has been noodling with guitar, mandolin and banjo since he could walk. He will play for a while, then stop. I bought him guitars and certainly encouraged it, and maybe I did too much, too fast, in my own eagerness for him to become a musician. Now I just leave it alone and will let the chips fall where they may. I have to.
Like your son, my son wants to be great at everything immediately. Of course it seems silly to us, but that’s how it is. I always remind him that the greats (at any endeavor) are still practicing everyday, trying to get better. They did not magically become great. It requires a ton of work. Giving him privacy is also vital, I believe. If he picks up an instrument, I walk out and let him explore, without any correction, critique, instruction, etc…I don’t want him to become frustrated, or (especially) embarrassed. The only way I will get involved is when he directly asks me to help or show him something. Otherwise I’m out of there. Just my own way of handling it. Leave it alone. |
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So I guess he lets me not play video games and I let him not play guitar. LOL All good. |
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Don't push it on him. Let him discover his own joy. That he shows an interest in it should be enough. The fact that he's pushing back shows me that he's feeling pressured into it and that will likely only drive him away from it.
FWIW I'm a 55yo dad with 2 sons (17 and 20) and while they love music I know that their attention spans are short compared to mine. Indeed, their mother has accused me of being addicted and obsessed with guitar. It's all relative.
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I would agree. Having started to play 3 years ago and following forums around guitar topics, especially the one associated with my primary lesson source, I see many adults, all ages really, start the journey, only to make a bunch of lame excuses and then disappear. Whatever they believe was a problem (my hands are too small) the bottom line is they came face to face with the fact that learning an instrument is not easy or fast. It just seems that the internets are full of instant phenomenons, but I bet those people, love ‘em or hate ‘em, love to play, worked hard and play a lot. |
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Let me tell you a story. My daughter's classmate loves volleyball. It is her life. If she wasn't 5 foot 1 as a sophomore I'm sure every college in the nation would be looking at her. Got invited to be on the Olympic track but dad didn't want to spend the money.
Last year her dad said she had to play soccer. She hated it. Told the rest of the team that she hated it and didn't want to be there and rolled her eyes when the coach put her in. This year her dad told her she had to play soccer again. She told he dad her knee hurt. She told my daughter there is nothing wrong with her knee. Is that the type of parent you want to be? Yesterday I watched my sons school jazz band get judged. Today I watched my daughter play soccer. Even though I'm a musician and not an athlete I don't know which events I enjoy watching more. I just love watching my children do what they love. And every generation calls the generation after it lazy and stupid yet the US always seems to survive. |
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It's not so strange. It's a lot of work to learn to play a musical instrument well. Many of people will, confronted with that knowledge, choose not to make the investment. That seems entirely reasonable to me. There are a great many ways to spend your time.
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We were also in the Green Country event last year where you guys were on the winning alliance. We were on alliance 5 and got sent to the loser bracket after RD1... then won every match up to the semifinals and got eliminated in RD5. In the one match where our alliances competed in the qualifying rounds, we lost You guys are on a roll! Good to see... keep it rolling! It's pretty incredible what these young folks can do...
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What a great discussion. This is a subject I have thought about a great deal.
Folks throughout this discussion have hit on various truths -- that getting good at music is about desire and tenacity, not merely "talent," for example -- so I doubt that I have anything significant to add, except possibly one thing. That is, our children (and in my case these days, our grand children) are not us. They have their own personalities and just because we were attracted to the guitar doesn't mean they will be. As Sponserv has noted, allowing his son to be whatever he is going to be is the wise and prudent choice. The robot thing is cool! The other comment I would like to make is this: sometimes people at a different time of life decide to pursue a skill like guitar playing that they were not ready for when they were young. Many of the comments here reflect that really happens to some of us. When I bought my grand daughter a guitar, the guy selling it to us said, "Well, she may get into this or she might later when she is ready, or she may never go for this. You have to let kids be who they are." - Glenn
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Personally I think the internet for all its wonderful benefits has taken some of the mystique out guitar playing. When I was in my late teens I became somewhat obsessed with becoming a good player and would seek out books on the subject and later take private lessons and basically spend lots of my free time practicing. I often wonder if I would have been so determined if all the information I could ever want, all the the videos I could ever wish to see were so readily available. Also back then the possibility of making a comfortable living as a musician seemed to me to be more achievable. Over the years I've learned to play competently enough but have made my living doing more mundane things unfortunately. I enjoy playing the guitar today but I think I enjoyed just as much back when I was trying so hard to become 'good' at it.
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I taught my son guitar for a while and even got him his own guitar. But he really didn't like playing guitar. He gravitated toward percussion. He can sight read on xylophones and marimba's really well and has excellent rhythmn.
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