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Old 04-22-2024, 04:16 AM
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Default Possible Taylor QC Issue?

I like to ask Acoustic guitar players and collectors if this is a common look or issue? "Rippling on the neck (I can see & feel) and a White Line" I've never had this before.
This is my 2nd 314ce LTD 50th Anniv. Builders Edition within a week of each other. This guitar has two areas of concern, am I being overly critical or a perfectionist?? (could you live with this?)
I've also owned 514ce, 714ce, 814ce currently 114ce, also Martin D16, D28, HD28, D45 as well from small builders. Thanks for any help or suggestions...Over all the guitar plays, sounds and looks beautiful, other than the issues.
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Old 04-22-2024, 04:20 AM
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You've probably already tried a damp cloth but could there be some residual buffing or polishing compound in the neck-to-body joint interface?
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Old 04-22-2024, 04:25 AM
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I think the white line would bother me a bit, considering it's a builder's edition and all. I don't know if I'd return it or not.
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"Over all the guitar plays, sounds and looks beautiful."

This is the most important thing. Unless there's a gap at the neck-body joint, I'd be leaning heavily towards these words. It would not bother me in the least. But it's your money, not mine. As someone suggested above, you might be able to wipe it out.
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Thank you guys, I'll try to rub out the "white line" the "Rippling in the wood" was bothering me, because I've never had that with any other Acoustic guitar I've own/owned.

So far "this is a wonderful site"....
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Thank you guys, I'll try to rub out the "white line" the "Rippling in the wood" was bothering me, because I've never had that with any other Acoustic guitar I've own/owned.

So far "this is a wonderful site"....
The rippling typically comes from "machine chatter" as the neck is CNC carved. When the bearings are going on the CNC machine it can cause this. I've felt it on a couple of Taylors.

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+1 on the buffing compound.
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The rippling typically comes from "machine chatter" as the neck is CNC carved. When the bearings are going on the CNC machine it can cause this. I've felt it on a couple of Taylors.

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Thank You Bob, I just spoke with Taylor and Customer Service said it's within QC tolerance and there would be no structural problem of any kind, but for myself "I don't like it" Returned....

Mike.

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I would play it and enjoy it, so long as it does not effect the integrity of the build, or the sound.
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Thank You Bob, I just spoke with Taylor and Customer Service said it's within QC tolerance and there would be no structural problem of any kind, but for myself "I don't like it" Returned....

Mike.
Glad to hear you returned it. That sort of thing would bother me as well. If you pay that kind of money for a guitar you should be the one putting the marks in it. I know there are others that wouldn't think twice about it. But if you're here asking questions I get the feeling it would have bothered you down the road as well.

I'm a big fan of Taylor and their customer service so I hope this won't deter you from buying another Taylor.
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I am amazed at this thread. Negatively amazed. I can't recall ever before seeing such resolute nitpicking.
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Thank You Bob, I just spoke with Taylor and Customer Service said it's within QC tolerance and there would be no structural problem of any kind, but for myself "I don't like it" Returned....

Mike.
That neck is within QC tolerances??? Wow...standards have changed and folks keep lining up to defend them for some reason.

Hope you find a good replacement.
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Possible Taylor QC Issue?

I like Taylors.

But I find the "ripple" unacceptable.

Maybe the white line is decorative detailing?
Wider whole picture available?

Be well and play well,

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I am amazed at this thread. Negatively amazed. I can't recall ever before seeing such resolute nitpicking.
LOL, check out any Ovation thread that comes along.
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That neck is within QC tolerances??? Wow...standards have changed and folks keep lining up to defend them for some reason.

Hope you find a good replacement.
Hello, I've owned a Taylor 514ce, 714ce, 814ce and currently 114ce and None of them have these "ISSUES" as the Two 314ce LTD 50th Anniv. Builders Edition I received and returned.

It's not the cost, it's in the detail that I look for! I did consider the 814ce Builders Edition but I can actually See the "Four Piece Top" I know it's rare but I prefer a two-piece. When I spoke with Taylor Customer Support, I was surprised in their response? because in the 30 Acoustic guitars that I've own/owned (also Martin, Adamus and others) I asked them
"If a top had a Black Stripe" running through a Straight-Grain Clean top would they accecpt it?" they said Yes?? CS said if it's part of the natural wood, they'll Pass it. I understand that Taylor have to "Defend" their opinion and standards, "That's fine" just like the Rippling they said it was from the wood "settling" like Quilt Maple or Flame (My Suhr and Anderson guitars you can see in the tops).

And yet I still Love my Taylor guitars!!! I just never seen the Ripples before, it's New to me. It's only "nitpicking" for someone that Just Doesn't Care??? or someone that's never had a beautiful guitar.

I'm more of a Electric guitar player, some of my guitars: Charvel, Suhr, Anderson, PRS, Fender, Ibanez, Warmoth, TK Instruments etc.

My Warmoth builds...
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