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Old 04-23-2024, 09:06 AM
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Last week I stopped by John's shop briefly, and he showed me something he'd been threatening to make for himself.

He made good on the threat, it appears.

It is arched, of course, and it is chambered, so perhaps the mod squad will leave it here, but whatever.......





Nice color!

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Old 04-25-2024, 02:04 PM
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That's a beautiful instrument. The tall skinny knobs are an elegant stylistic touch.
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It is arched, of course, and it is chambered . . .
2.5" deep? 2.75" deep?

What's under the stop tailpiece -- a thick top, an attached bar, a pier reaching the back, something else?

Is there a port on the top bout or is it fully-closed?
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That is a beautiful instrument. Very classy. Sometimes, builders go overboard (at least, for my tastes) almost to the point of being gaudy. But this instrument is a perfect example of pure class anyone would be proud to own and play.

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2.5" deep? 2.75" deep?

What's under the stop tailpiece -- a thick top, an attached bar, a pier reaching the back, something else?

Is there a port on the top bout or is it fully-closed?
Hi Sam,
I really have no idea. I didn't think to ask, but when I have a chance I will. It certainly does appear thicker than a typical LP build.

It does NOT, have a port, of course, except where the 1/4" jack exits.

No matter how 'chambered' it might be, it's an electric guitar, and most people would probably consider it a solid body for all intensive porpoises.

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No matter how 'chambered' it might be,
"Chambered" is an electric-guitar-builder's term of art. It means that instead of bent sides a solid block of wood is routed away to create a hollow space.

For example, the Epi WildKat is chambered:



John Monteleone did not rout away 2.5" of wood to create this guitar. It has bent sides or dinner's on me.

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. . . most people would probably consider it a solid body for all intensive porpoises.
It's a hollow guitar, maestro. Look at how much thicker it is than a solid-body Les Paul:

See how the LP's jack takes up almost the entire side, but the Monte's has an inch or so on top and bottom?

Yes, it has a maple top.
Yes, it's built to play through an amp.
Yes, I would be mighty happy to let it stay at my house while it settles in over the next few decades.
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"Chambered" is an electric-guitar-builder's term of art. It means that instead of bent sides a solid block of wood is routed away to create a hollow space.

For example, the Epi WildKat is chambered:



John Monteleone did not rout away 2.5" of wood to create this guitar. It has bent sides or dinner's on me.


It's a hollow guitar, maestro. Look at how much thicker it is than a solid-body Les Paul:

See how the LP's jack takes up almost the entire side, but the Monte's has an inch or so on top and bottom?

Yes, it has a maple top.
Yes, it's built to play through an amp.
Yes, I would be mighty happy to let it stay at my house while it settles in over the next few decades.
Hi Sam,
Do you want to send me gift card, or will you coming down this way anytime soon so we can have dinner together?

It's an odd, but slightly satisfying feeling being spoken to as if I were young and ill-informed. I wish I was still that young, but hey.......a meal is a meal.

It's a maple cap, and a two-piece mahogany slab that John joined, and then marked out for a center neck block, AND for 1/2" thick sides. He band sawed away the waste, and then inlaid thin mahogany veneer fillets to fill the band saw cut.

Orville Gibson is kvelling in his grave.

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Hi Sam,
Do you want to send me gift card, or will you coming down this way anytime soon so we can have dinner together?

It's an odd, but slightly satisfying feeling being spoken to as if I were young and ill-informed. I wish I was still that young, but hey.......a meal is a meal.

It's a maple cap, and a two-piece mahogany slab that John joined, and then marked out for a center neck block, AND for 1/2" thick sides. He band sawed away the waste, and then inlaid thin mahogany veneer fillets to fill the band saw cut.

Orville Gibson is kvelling in his grave.

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A Gibson CS-336 has back and sides that are carved out of a single piece of mahogany capped with a maple top. It sounds surprisingly a lot like a Les Paul, but a touch smoother.


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A Gibson CS-336 has back and sides that are carved out of a single piece of mahogany capped with a maple top. It sounds surprisingly a lot like a Les Paul, but a touch smoother.


https://imgur.com/a/sgnc7U4
That was basically Gibson's 'copy' of the late Steve Carr's Mini 335-ish instrument.

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Hi Sam,
Do you want to send me gift card, or will you coming down this way anytime soon so we can have dinner together?

It's an odd, but slightly satisfying feeling being spoken to as if I were young and ill-informed. I wish I was still that young, but hey.......a meal is a meal.

It's a maple cap, and a two-piece mahogany slab that John joined, and then marked out for a center neck block, AND for 1/2" thick sides. He band sawed away the waste, and then inlaid thin mahogany veneer fillets to fill the band saw cut.

Orville Gibson is kvelling in his grave.

Best regards,
Howard Emerson
Howard, dinner is indeed on me, and I'm a chump, and that is one unique guitar.
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