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This is a somewhat silly debate. The C.F. Martin Guitar Company, despite its grand heritage, doesn't have a monopoly on nomenclature. That said, the "definition" of a guitar is defined only by it's builder, not by what Martin originally called it. Therefore, if Bill Collings, or Dana Bourgeois, or Richard Hoover, etc., want to call an Orchestra Model with a 12-fret join a OM-12, or offer a 12-fret join or short-scale as an OM option, then that's what it is. I love Martin's, but they don't define all of guitardom...
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But is it a 12-fret 000 body, or a 14-fret 000 body with a 12-fret neck. I would bet H and D would build a good one!
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I can name my dog "Horse," but that will not make him a horse.
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That's a great way to look at this! I never intended to start a labeling debate. Just wanted to discuss a design.
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As to the SCGC Rising Fawn,
As Tadol pointed out the body depth, it's also the standard 000 12 fret body shape, rather than the square shouldered OM / 000 14 fret body. |
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Thanks, did not know this.
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The H&D 12-fret 000 has a real-deal 12-fret body, modeled on an early '30's era Martin 000, before the advent of 14-fret instruments.
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Anyway, this is quite off topic from the OP's original intent, so no more posts of this nature from me...
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...i once played a Santa Cruz custom 12 fret OM...brazilian/red spruce....true square shouldered OM body shape....with a 12 fret neck with slotted headstock...it was one of the very best instruments i've laid my hands on...it was 10 grand more than ten years ago so it was out of my price range but its one of the few guitars that i still think about after all these years...i'm kinda surprised you don't see them more often..
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Might send AGFer Boone an email about the 12 fret om ala Norman Blake model he had custom built by DC phenom luthier Todd Stock. Incredible sound comes out of that guitar and it's an absolute beauty. Only a year or so old, it figures to get even better.
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