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Neck of Waterloo WL Series
Has anyone had the chance to play these models? I am very interested but have doubts in regards to the neck. I just wanted some opinions as to what I should expect. From my research I know that it is V shaped neck with a 1 3/4 nut width (which I am used to) but have never played anything with a saddle spacing of 2 3/8. Is this huge? Well-I know this is larger then standard but what I am concerned about is if this will feel like a baseball bat or not. has anyone had the chance to play the alternative lower profile neck? If so does anyone know where this can be purchased? Thanks for all the help.
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I played several at Elderly a few weeks back. Man the tone was incredible, but the "V" was a bit deep for me. My 2 cents. But try some for yourself. You might love them. The tone and build quality is excellent.
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I loved the neck on the WL-14X T-bar I tried last year. And the 2 3/8" spacing doesn't feel like Martin's 2 3/8" spacing on something like the OM-18A.
Collings/Waterloo necks are typically more rounded in the shoulder area and deeper top to bottom, but the fingerboard taper is more slender than the Martin mod-v. The thinner taper gives the player the impression that the Collings/Waterloo neck is overall smaller and less chunky.
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The earlier WL 14 frets had very vintage-like necks. They were heftier, like the old Kalamazoos. The more recent models have a more modern feel. How do I know this? I have #2X (x-braced) and #4X (ladder braced). I played a more recent version of both the x and ladder braced models and the necks were much more modern feeling (smoother and the profiles were slimmed down). These were not the smaller-necked versions either.
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Maryc, do you prefer the l to the x braced?
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i had the ladder braced with v-neck, and the v caused pain in my thumb joint, so i let it go. i now have the x-braced with rounded neck, it is very comfortable and not a large neck profile. The saddle string spacing is not an obstacle for me, since i always use fingerpicks, but i know some flatpickers who thought it to be a bit too wide at the saddle for their style. As far as the tone that is a subjective experience, both sound great and "old-timey".
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Where were you able to find one with the lower profile neck? I can't seem to find one
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i am a southpaw i bought it online from vic's lefty guitars- i advise calling places and ordering one.
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I concur...
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I have the same thoughts on the WL-12s: what does an oval Waterloo neck feel like? What's it like compared to say a Collings C-profile as on a C10? From videos, I'd thought of getting one, but I played a lovely Martin 00-17S recently, which suited me very well; I wonder how that Martin profile compares with the Collings as I'd have to order the latter sight unseen. |
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wl-14 profile only slightly thicker than martin ceo-7
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Nope. In fact the CEO-7 neck is still overall bigger feeling than the larger Waterloo neck, IMO.
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I think it depends on the type of music I am playing, which is why I still have both. The ladder-braced is good for that David Rawlings style of flatpicking. It's good a fuller sounds with a certain attack. Mine has a t-bar and is super light. I believe they've changed the saddle on these too. The newer ones are a drop in saddle, while the older ones were cut-through (like the ones on the WL-K's).
I use the x-brace to play back up and lead lines on fiddle tunes and more contemporary stuff. I like the Jumbo too. Kind of a dread without the big square shoulders. I notice that they are making rosewood versions now too! I believe the Music Emporium has a low-profile neck model in stock. Call them. |
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depends on individual hands- that's why casting about for opinions is such a crap shoot
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