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Old 04-21-2011, 08:25 AM
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Default Cheapest Guitar with 1.75 Nut Width for Student

Hey guys! I need some advice. As some of you know I have been teaching an Introduction to Guitars class to some of my 8th graders. The class is awesome and I have some great kids. I live in the deep south and to be honest if it's not football most kids don't give it a second look. When I offered this enrichment class I was surprised to see 7 football players take an interest. Not only that I had two african american young men, both are standout football players, take interest. Two of the young men are well over 6 foot and have hands bigger than mine and I have large hands. The problem is that they are struggling with a 1 11/16 nut just as I did. I'm trying to find them a cheap 1.75 nut or maybe 1.8 like Seagull. If you have any advice or can point me in a direction where I can find a guitar like this, please let me know by PM or email at kendallhadden at yahoo.com . Thanks in advance. I'm going to post some pictures of my class soon.

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Old 04-21-2011, 08:32 AM
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The small body and short scale of this guitar might be an issue with the size of these guys and I am sure there is probably something cheaper but I think your best bang for the buck is going to be the Silver Creek T-160.

Where else can you get an all solid wood guitar for less than $200...

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I have to second the T160. I own the T170 and just love it. 24.9" scale, 1 3/4" nut width, and 2 1/4" string spread at the saddle = outstanding playability. OH!!! - And it sounds as good as much higher priced OOO guitars.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:15 AM
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I traded in a Yamaha FG735S for a Seagull S6 to get the 1.8" nut (other reasons too). As a beginner I can fret chords easier on the wider neck.
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Hi Kendall…
For ''cheaper the better'' the Silver Creek are it.

The action can be set to be quite playable.

I don't share the glowing reviews about tone/sound as others here do...the Seagull S-6 is much better in that department. I've had hands on both (and ears), and the Seagull is a definite step up in tone quality and price...despite the fact they are only solid top.

And the neck is chunkier on the Seagull too which may be better for larger hands.

If you are in the Seagull range of price, then the Voyage-Air OM series are within reach. They also come with a case for the initial investment, whereas the Seagulls and Silver Creek guitars do not.



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Old 04-21-2011, 09:33 AM
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Recording King ROS series have very wide necks for tall players too.

Maybe even look at Classical guitars if needs be...
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Hi kendall…

Just as a follow up the string spacing on a 1.8'' Seagull fingerboard is exactly the same as a standard 1.75'' fingerboard that other companies make.

The difference is because they are built to a metric standard in French Speaking Canada and merely translate the millimeters to inches, but the actual spacing is what counts.


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The other answers are probably the way to go. I will just throw this out there, as you mentioned football players.

A few years back I was helping a young kid get started on guitar. He had tried on and off for several years, but he would get frustrated and quit.

This kid was huge. He was 6' 7", weighed close to 300 lbs. and he had hands like a baseball glove. He was too big for the guitars he had been trying to learn on. (yes, I know, there are huge people who can fingerpick mandolins, good for them, but this kid wasn't one of them)

Anyway, I had a Seagull S6-12 string lying around (at the time I had three or four of them). I strung one up as a six string, threw a set of mediums on it, took off the extra tuners, and gave it to the kid. He loved it. It was the first guitar he was able to play cleanly and it was because of the that big, and now very roomy, neck. The kid stuck with it and became a guitar player. He eventually met up with a Collings 12-Fret Dread (huge neck) he got a great deal on.

Sometimes really big people just need bigger guitars.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:51 AM
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Thanks Larry and everyone else for your input. I'm actually looking for a Seagull for this young man on Craigslist. I'm hoping I can run across one that is in his pricerange. I may have to put some with it to help him out but that is fine. The Silver Creek is definitely an option and that is the first guitar that popped into my mind. I believe he can swing that. I told him to give me over the weekend to look around.
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Hi kendall…

Just as a follow up the string spacing on a 1.8'' Seagull fingerboard is exactly the same as a standard 1.75'' fingerboard that other companies make.

The difference is because they are built to a metric standard in French Speaking Canada and merely translate the millimeters to inches, but the actual spacing is what counts.


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Silver Creek T-160 or T-170. Great guitars at bargain prices. For your purposes, avoid the dreadnought models... the D-160 and D-170...as they have 1 11/16" nut widths.
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Back in February Stephen Chipman from here at AGF donated a cool little Regal Parlor to our Guitar class. It needed some TLC but was in somewhat playable condition. I'm in the process of getting that ready to play. I just picked up some tuners that will go on it this week or next. The nut on that guitar is pretty large so it will help with some of the guys. By the way, Thanks Stephen Chipman!!
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Try the Recording King ROS-06. I bought mine new at Elderly all set up CHEAP. Solid top, 1 7/8 nut width, very wide string spacing at the saddle, and lovely tone.
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Try the Recording King ROS-06. I bought mine new at Elderly all set up CHEAP. Solid top, 1 7/8 nut width, very wide string spacing at the saddle, and lovely tone.
I second this one too, even if I'm only 5', 7" and 130 lb frame.
I bought it less than a month ago and the neck and everything else suit me fine. Not to mention the tone
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I just received a Silver Creek T-170 and T-160 a week apart, and was really pleasantly surprised at the quality, tone, nicely book-matched tops, and overall playability of these instruments. These aren't the first I've owned and have been privy to the buyers' concerns about lousy strings, poor tone, non-existent set-ups out of the box, and overall poor quality. I got to tell you, these two newest Silver Creeks have very decent strings, great tone, and very good playability. Sure, any new guitar is going to benefit from a set-up to meet the individual player's specific likes; but these two are extremely nice and playable right from Musicians Friend. If these two Silver Creeks are indicative of what's coming out of China, we'll no longer have to qualify our Silver Creek praise with "for the money"....

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