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I take it you haven't read the entire thread.
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Or maybe just disagrees with those who theorize -- and that's what we're all doing -- that the damage could have occurred without opening the case.
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I showed these pictures and shared the basic information with a couple of engineers from work - one is a materials engineer and the other is our failure analyst. They have been mulling it over since yesterday afternoon so I'm going to go check with them and see what their thoughts are.
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The guitar was clearly dropped on concrete from several feet up, and landed on the front edge binding. The top then failed due to instantaneous compression loading. Impossible to take that kind of damage while in the case. (IMO)
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I saw this on Facebook first. Someone made several responses, stating that he was a luthier and had seen many instruments damaged in flight, and that it was virtually never the fault of the airline or TSA. He said the case was a cheap knockoff and insufficient to protect the guitar from normal shifting and falls that could occur in the plane's baggage hold. Also made some disparaging statements about Dave Carroll (United Breaks Guitars). Of all of the negative experiences I've read about on this forum and elsewhere, that musicians have had with airlines, I've never seen anything like it before. Makes one wonder if he is used as some kind of expert consultant by airlines. Name was Paul something. I could probably find it. Wasn't going to include his name, but he had no qualms about doing so on fb, do why should I?
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i read through the responses again last night, too, and they were nowhere to be found. Apparently he removed them. Needless to say, he go some pretty strong responses and maybe he decided it might not do his business any good to leave them up. Pretty inflammatory for him to say that Don had used a "cheap knockoff" case when Dan had clearly stated this the same case Yo-yo Ma uses for his cello and to insult Dave Carroll who has quite a following. I really wish I could remember the guy's name.
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Its just a guitar and can easily be replaced, I'm sure Don would sound just as good on a nice new one.
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And raises the interesting notion, would we be better shipping our cases in "low dollar" looking apparel in the hopes of not screaming to the malicious psychopathic handler: "There's a very expensive guitar in here." I know of more than one professional guitarist that take their high dollar guitars out of the factory case or custom cases when traveling to a gig because it advertises to criminals: "Here is a good steal, if you can get it." Cheap cases suggest cheap guitars not worth the time or effort to steal or maliciously destroy. John
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I think Don has some strong feelings about his instruments. He had at least one guitar stolen several years back and offered a reward to get it back (which I believe he did). Replacing it is not as easy as getting Marc to build another.
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Well, in my experience, it could have.
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Not the same scenario. While I personally wouldn't rule out anything, I tend to think the damage occurred when the instrument was taken out of the case, since the case was indeed opened, as evidenced by the TSA note, and the case isn't a conventional hardshell, rather a $1,500 Kevlar-reinforced carbon fiber flight case with shock suspension.
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It sounds like Mr. Ross will get compensated. I cringed. I imagine it was a very nice guitar.
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