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If the song belongs to me, why shouldn't I get paid every time it's used?
How many times do hotels want to be paid for renting the same room? How many times do real estate agents want to be paid for selling the same house? How many times do photographers want to be paid for selling prints of the same photograph? How many times do groomers want to be paid for grooming the same dog? How many times do babysitters want to be paid for watching the same kids?
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Lots of high horses on this thread, on both sides of the fence...
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By your analogy, the hotel would never change the linens or clean the room - The re agent would get paid each time you walked in the door - The photographer would get paid each time someone looked at a photo - And the groomer and babysitter would get paid for the rest of the animals or kids lives -
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Can you move into that house for sale without buying it? When you see a photographer's print hanging on someone's wall, didn't that person purchase the right to display it? As for the groomer and the babysitter, you only have to pay them when your animals or kids are in their care, just as you only have to pay for a song when you play it.
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Attention people you are needlessly making this way too convoluted .
The licensing PRO fees are like any other subscription fee .. plain and simple. no hotels, no mechanics or plumbers , no how many times do they want to get paid.... bla bla bla . It's a subscription fee period. The venue pays it once for a given time period (usually 1 year in the case of bars , coffee shops, restaurants, etc. ) and the performers can play the songs as many times as they want .
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Lots of opinions here. Not to get you guys off of your arguments, but I have a question, hopefully related.
Ted said something about "transmitting" over the internet. If I put one of my lousy covers on Soundcloud so my kids can hear it do I need a license? What if I post it here in the show and tell forum? There is obviously no monetary profit involved, am I naïve to assume that makes it ok? |
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On the other hand, we felt pretty good about ourselves that our version sounded close enough to the original so that a computer could recognize it as the same song. |
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https://www.ascap.com/help/ascap-licensing |
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I have found this thread informative but what do I know. I've only played open mics 2 or 3 times.
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While songwriters should get paid, here is one of my problems.
http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2014...ut-live-music/ This was about local kids getting to perform their original music, getting credit at school to do it and money made donated to local charities. It is a shame that they had to stop.
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I didn't read all the posts, but I wanted to share a story of a nightclub manager/dj/recording artist whose club was being harassed by BMI/ASCAP (one or the other or both).
The licensing company came to the club demanding payment. The manager/dj/recording artist said to him "Where does the money we pay you go?" The guys says "It goes to the artist," the guy told him. The manager/dj/recording artist called #$%^& on him and said, "I'm a member of your organization and I've been playing my own records in here for the past ten years, and I have not received one cent from you."
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That's a lot of money as fees and looks like the middle man/agency takes most of it as the license is in bulk fees, not based on what's being played individually. Most songwriters/musicians are already filthy rich. Not only that, when they die, their families continue to suck it forever and ever. Basically, no free music if you are a business. I guess we need to start a new open mic where everyone listens to the same song from their phones using headphones.
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Closed due to length, and the belief that not a lot more (different) can be said.
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