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I don't know, just like you don't know that changing technique would fix it the pain. In fact you have no idea what my technique is. What I do know that the most painful positions on this neck for me are ones where I play the chords in a classical position. I feel as though it's because of how thin the neck is personally.
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anyone else had trouble adjusting to a new neck shape?
Yup...."V" necks are not my friend
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It happens, I don't know if you can change your form to cure it or not. It's worth a try, but if nothing works, well, at least you know others have had to let gear go over issues like this. The best sounding guitar in the world isn't a dream guitar if you have to suffer when playing it. I couldn't really handle Strats until the new ones came out last year. Those new necks don't hurt my left hand now. |
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Count yourself lucky if you still have one that works. G'luck!
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My sympathies. 27 years ago I ordered a custom shop Martin J-40, intended to be my lifetime guitar, and saved up for it for a year. Things were fine for a long time, but roughly ten years ago, I noticed that my fretting hand began to hurt after playing for a little while. I could play that wonderful guitar for about 20 minutes and my hand would ache for the rest of the day. But I can play any of my Taylor or Rainsong guitars (or others) for 2-3 hours at a sitting without any left hand pain. It took a while to accept the hard reality but I finally sold that guitar last summer. It had also aged into a tone monster, so imagine my disappointment. But a guitar that I cannot play is of little sue to me.
I used to attribute this problem to the 1-11/16" nut width, but it is maybe not that simple. I have come to believe that the whole package -- neck carve, fret board radius, rolled edges, scale length, nut width -- all factor in. I have learned the hard way what works (Taylor) and what doesn't (for me: Martin MLO necks with 1-11/16" nuts). Unfortunately, I cannot offer you very much encouragement, especially since your problem seems so sudden and acute. If it hurts, you probably won't ever adjust fully. I gave my favorite Martin ten years to come around without any real luck. Sorry. |
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You can try a lot of guitars to get a coarse feel for this in a shop but sometimes the tone, cosmetics or price will over run this ease of play screening. It might take a couple weeks to injure your hand with a V neck or a really flat radius like Collings and Bourgeois that might cause finger strain. The genre you play might dictate the fluidity of your music. Fingerstyle is better with wider strings and shallower neck carves. Strumming is a mixed bag of sizes and shapes. I play different genres. On many I like a round radius(12") and 1.725" nut width with a 2 3/16" saddle spacing. For fingers only music, out of necessity for accuracy over plectrum speed, I like wider string spacing. If you just want a shallow neck that is good for general playing the Martin oval and Taylor necks are very comfortable, except for some with large hands. If you live near an acoustic store ask for someone who will help size up your hands and make a list of which guitars feel the best. See if you like round fret board radius or a flatter one. Hopefully the string height will be fine and you can just get sized for the neck: How your thumb, palm and fingers hit the underside neck and the top fretboard. Last edited by tippy5; 09-20-2017 at 11:53 AM. |
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The OP has said that as soon as he switches guitars, the pain stops. Why should he see a doctor when the problem is the neck on this particular guitar? This isn't complicated. You may be able to play a variety of shapes and widths of necks but not everybody is you. Haven't you read any of the other posts from other AGF'ers that ONLY had problems with one guitar and the problem went away when the guitar did? Why does this call for going to a doctor?
If it hurts when I hit my thumb with a hammer I could either stop doing that, or go to a thumb specialist. Why seek a doctor out when common sense is the fastest cure?? I don't get this train of thinking?
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I was born in the early fifties, if that makes a difference, so approaching my 7th decade, and wanted to put in a word about the V neck on my OM-18 Authentic. That neck is thicker and incorporates a fixed ebony truss rod.
After a little over a year and a half, I seem to have adjusted pretty well. I play ragtime blues, folk and classical. I do barre chords all up and down the neck, and even play notes at the 17th fret. I do some exercises for strength and flexibility in hands and arms and there was a period of a couple of days when some kind of pain prevented me from playing, but I've found that V shape has lots of advantages once you adjust to it, and now regularly play and practice for 2 or 3 hours a day and sometimes more. I think the thinner necks can be harder on the muscles in my hand, less support. I grip the neck sometimes and also play more classical position with the thumb fully behind the neck. I also use a Sound Seat, elevate the neck, and place the guitar on the left leg. The hand carved neck is one of the features of the Authentic, and it seemed to me they put a lot of thought into the design, so it was a matter of learning to use it properly.
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That bottom line is that the only solution is the one that works. You can do exercises, change from classical position or to classical position and do all kinds of things, but what works for others might not work for you. If I was in your situation, I'd swap out guitars. There maybe only one Trigger, but there's no such thing as only one good sounding guitar, you can find others; your health is much more important, so you should always give that first priority.
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