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06-03-2014, 09:09 AM
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Is Madagascar Rosewood on the same list as Brazilian Rosewood
is madagascar on the endangered Species list?
Trying to figure our what wood to use for my new classical.
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06-03-2014, 09:38 AM
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You may or may not want to consider this input as you make your decision.
http://newswatch.nationalgeographic....ogging_crisis/ max
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06-03-2014, 09:48 AM
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Any material that you consider using - make sure your builder can offer a guarrantee that it was obtained legally and responsibly, in writing. If you choose to use materials that are or may soon be CITES listed, then it is much more important, and expect that the quality of the documentation to be reflected in the price -
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06-03-2014, 09:52 AM
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There is plenty of legal Madagascar around. Martin is making wonderful guitars out of it.
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06-03-2014, 08:09 PM
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how about Cocabolo B&S
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06-03-2014, 08:22 PM
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07-07-2014, 09:40 AM
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Seems to me,sustainable,renewable is the way its going.Closely controlled(in some cases at the point of a gun)...because there is a lot of money involved and vested interests want to make sure only the local population benefits monetarily(jobs to feed families).
So,yes today i'm looking at a new Martin with Madagasgar. Being released in small quantities.It will be available down the road,but i can only think the price will go upupup...
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07-07-2014, 10:05 AM
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Some years ago, I was admiring a beautiful piece of wood in a luthier's workshop[. I asked about it and he said it was Mad-Rose. He said that he had bought some and then found out about its sourcing and would not, in conscience, use it. indeed he said he felt guilty possessing it although it was bought and paid for and documented.
Would I buy a used guitar with mad-rose ? such as a Martin Authentic ? possibly, but would I order it ? No way.
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07-07-2014, 10:34 AM
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nothing fancy just straight grain, im even thinking about a color 
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07-07-2014, 11:03 AM
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07-07-2014, 12:02 PM
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07-07-2014, 12:21 PM
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Whether or not Mad rose is CITES listed, it probably should be. CITES listings are undertaken at the behest of the local government, and if they're cashing in on deforestation they're not going to go that way, even when they should. Madagascar is a huge, ancient, and distinct ecosystem that is being torn apart to feed the market for exotic woods. We're only a tiny part of that market, and you could say we're not the problem, but, of course, we are, in a small way. I have a few sets of Mad rose myself; mostly gifts from a friend, and all 'legal'. At this point I'm not sure they're ethical, and they will probably sit on the shelf.
Meanwhile, there are 'local' woods that sound as good that are difficult to sell, just because they don't look like the 'usual suspects'. Some have their own beauty, like quartered oak. Others, like Osage Orange, have an interesting history (it probably evolved to be spread by mammoths, and nearly went extinct when it's primary vector did). It's entirely possible to get a guitar that will have all the performance of the exotics, look terrific, you can take it anywhere without any hassles about 'endangered species', and (at the moment) you won't pay a big upcharge for the wood. Finally, if you're aware of the impending (although maybe deferred) ivory ban, you'll have a window into what could well happen with any exotic at any time. You can agree with the logic behind it or not, but the fact remains that there are interests making the argument that any trade in an endangered species, whether it's CITES listed or not, simply fuels the black market and encourages poaching. That Madrose might look like a good investment now, but if a total ban goes through there goes the value. Just talk to the folks who invested in ivory.
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07-07-2014, 12:35 PM
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searching the net will also confirm this . i have some wood that came from africa ( green in color ) that practically knocked me out when i cut into it - I had a very bad reaction - i know what its like -not nice. You also need to know Maddy is a very good guitar wood - but only Brazilian rosewood sounds like Brazilian rosewood. !
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07-07-2014, 12:42 PM
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I think my next classical is going to be Indian Rosewood right now i have Brazilian Rosewood but i think EIR might be better. From past talkings to Robert Ruck and hearing stories from Fleta EIR is the easiest wood to manipulate.
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