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Bit confusing
After reading the thread to this point I find little actual information on how the tone/power of a slop shoulder, by it's very shape ,is supposed to differ from a square shoulder.
It seems the talked about differences here lie in the size of the lower body and the depths at either end of the the body. Those apparently vary from maker/model independently from the presence of the shoulder shape. If what every builder I have asked about the effect of a cut-away on tone has said, that there is no noticeable effect, then the slight difference in the volume of the upper body due just to the shape would be even less impactful. So seems to me this is really about looks.
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Of course there is more than just rounding off the radius of the corners. There are a lot of factors (besides dimension) which affect sound quality, playability, sustain, and sonic dimension. That's why Martin SHAPED guitars (by other makers) rarely sound like Martins. |
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I hear the same things in slope dreads vs square shoulder dreads. Better balance and more midrange with a slope, but my ears still prefer the square shoulder design in almost all situations.
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True. Since there's even clear dimensional differences between Gibson's own "slopes", it really comes down to comparing two specific guitars because any two slopes may be completely different so very little generalization can be done. Which is why, I always say, you have to play an instrument to know if you will like it. If you do, the rest is secondary.
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I had gone to the shop to sample a 1950s D28. I left with the Keb' Mo'. I didn't get the 28 because it was too similar to my D45. When I brought the Keb' home and showed/played it for my wife, she proclaimed it is the best sounding Gibson acoustic she has ever heard. Although I attribute some of that to the person demonstrating the guitar to her.... . I concur. And, I own a J45 that Ren Ferguson built for me before he left Gibson. The wider nut & 12-fret, among other features, makes this sound and feel sublime.
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My ears tend to prefer the sound of whatever my eyes tell them to prefer.
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Isn't it just the (normally) shorter scale length of slope shoulder dreads (Gibson J45 scale length rather than Martin D-18 scale length) that makes them more comfortable to play, and moves the timbre somewhat, rather than the slope shoulders compared to square shoulders body shape difference? I expect that a 24.75 scale length D-18 (I think that there were some built for a while) compared to a 25.5" scale length D-18 would give a similar change in comfort and shift of timbre.
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I think they might just have one of those lying around in the Tower of London, that hasn't been used in about 300 years or so...
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confirmation bias
Truth! Ever hear of 'confirmation bias'? Next we'll be hearing about the tonal superiority of white bridge pins...
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This should be a sticky
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Na Not really except of course when they have a little circle of abalone in the top then you get a tsunami like swell in lower mids
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