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Is there an executive summary somewhere ....?
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Sorry. There is but it's probably longer than the uncondensed version.
Sorry fellas. Believe it or NOT, I AM working on my rantiness and TRYING to keep my posts a little shorter and more concise. Believe it or not. :-( Baby steps.
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Please work harder. When I see a long involved post, I read about 2 sentences and move on... |
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Its the technique used on a given guitar that's going to produce the tone a player likes or dislikes. I don't play my Gibsons like my Martins, I don't even play all my Gibsons or my Martins the same. Each individual guitar gets played to MAXIMIZE the tone I like from that particular guitar.
When I pick up my Martin D35, I know I'll be plucking it lightly to get the nuance of the thinner braces. When I get out the Martin HD28V, I know I will be finger plucking the strings rather firmly and agressively to get that tone I like. For my Gibson Sheryl Crow Country Western guitar, its more of a strumming style with intermixed light plucking. My Gibson J200 ? Its time for light strumming and light plucking as well. Most of my Gibsons enjoy a lighter touch than my Martins, cuz they just don't sound great when they are loud. Its all what you put in that you get out folks, Harmonics |
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I hope Rich has seen enough of my nonsense here to get it. As I was challenged, on my "point", I read back through a few of his (rmyA's) recent posts and confess that I was probably thinking of one where he says a friend of his keeps his Martin HD 28 V 'round at his house. So, , , my bad. My team of lawyers is standing by, to consider the claims of any injured parties. |
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Let me repeat that : TO HIM. So your counter-argument is that the comparison is unfair, because really he should be comparing the Webbers/Halycons with the Authentic series. Right, to be fair, they need to be compared with a guitar that costs, at least in comparison with a standard Webber EI-Sitka or Mahogany-backed Dread, about twice as much. To be fair. TW (Who owns a Webber, and a couple of Martins too. And who LIKES the Authentic series.) |
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(P.S. Now I guess I need to look up what the heck a Halcyon guitar is... Never heard of 'em.) |
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Add me to the please try harder group. We get you like Halycon guitars, that's fine, try letting other folks perfer what they will....baby steps
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So to find the one special guitar (5%) you would have to try 20 guitars of the same model to find the one - statistically speaking. That sounds Unreasonable.... but when you find it .......wow. On another note, Every Stonebridge guitar I have ever played was special and less expensive. That does not mean I will not pick up a martin if it hits me, as you can see from my signature. And.......sometimes that lack of Resonance is good for recording.
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Yup. Everyone is free to prefer what they prefer.
They are also free to not read further than 2 lines-in to any post. Freedom...Freedom...la la la Anyway, I prefer to say that D18 and 28s are high end. At least around here (my town) they are. Compared to the common Seagulls and Yamahas I see all the time. And...like the OP, my custom builds (that cost less than even the low-end D18s and 28s) are preferred over every high end guitar I've ever played. There. That was pretty short. Thanks for letting me practice.
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P.S. It is great that you like your guitars, no two ways about that! Last edited by kydave; 11-19-2013 at 01:49 PM. |
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Halcyon is a line of varnish-finished, bare-bones handbuilt guitars made by Ed Bond in Vancouver in the $1000-1200 range. His guitars are at the extreme low end of the price spectrum for handbuilt, small-shop instruments. I have one of his OMs in Lutz spruce over mahogany and it is astonishingly responsive, loud, complex and "raw" sounding. Stunning tone and playability for the money, or any money. They exemplify my belief that even the less expensive handbuilt guitars offer significant advantages in responsiveness compared to most factory built guitars.
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This forum encouraged me to reach out and try guitars I hadn't considered or known about. I assumed all handbuilts would cost much more than factory instruments ($10k was the figure I had in my head for some reason). I pulled the trigger on a $1400 used Webber through the classifieds here and my first thought when I played it was "what the?!?!?!? How is this so good for this price?!?!?" I will gladly support and defend any Martin aficionado's right to buy and enjoy their Martins. I'm not here to bash. Just to describe an experience I had in a guitar store, and to express my opinion, and hope that someone reads this thread and gives some less-popular, handbuilt makes a try. Sharing experiences is what this forum is about IMHO. I'm just sharing mine.
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The first problem is defining "handbuilt". The second is defining "better". The first is easier than the second, but not by much.
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