Martin String Length

[dwstout]

Since the saddle isn't parallel to the frets or the nut, every string has a different length. That is the reason the scale length is 2x the nut to 12th fret length and NOT the length of a string.
So, is every string length (comparing E vs E, B vs B, G vs G, etc.) different by 1/16"?

[Victory Pete]

Originally Posted by dwstout

Since the saddle isn't parallel to the frets or the nut, every string has a different length. That is the reason the scale length is 2x the nut to 12th fret length and NOT the length of a string.
So, is every string length (comparing E vs E, B vs B, G vs G, etc.) different by 1/16"?

Yes they are.

[David Eastwood]

Originally Posted by Victory Pete

Yes they are.

I've just gone through this thread again. I see a pattern developing.

Is this going to be another one where you reject any explanation that anyone comes up with, and demand answers to whatever question it is that you're asking?

[Victory Pete]

Originally Posted by eatswodo

I've just gone through this thread again. I see a pattern developing.

Is this going to be another one where you reject any explanation that anyone comes up with, and demand answers to whatever question it is that you're asking?

I reject non concise illogical answers. Until you showed up all replies were just fine.

[David Eastwood]

Originally Posted by Victory Pete

I reject non concise illogical answers. Until you showed up all replies were just fine.

Never mind, then.

[dwstout]

Originally Posted by Victory Pete

Yes they are.

Actually Pete it isn't. Not on my Webber. And I don't think they were on at least some of my past guitars, Collins, Martin, Santa Cruz.

Look at this image of a Martin from a CraigList listing:
https://images.craigslist.org/00k0k_...m_1200x900.jpg

The forward part of the bridge is but not the saddle.

[Victory Pete]

Originally Posted by dwstout

Actually Pete it isn't. Not on my Webber. And I don't think they were on at least some of my past guitars, Collins, Martin, Santa Cruz.

Look at this image of a Martin from a CraigList listing:
https://images.craigslist.org/00k0k_...m_1200x900.jpg

The forward part of the bridge is but not the saddle.

Yes they are. My measurements don't lie. I am not sure what your point is.

[dwstout]

Originally Posted by Victory Pete

Yes they are. My measurements don't lie. I am not sure what your point is.

Did you bother to look at the picture I linked to?
My point was that since on ALL the guitars I've ever owned in my 45 years of playing (Martin, Collins, Santa Cruz, Webber, Epiphone), the saddle was slightly angled to the neck and frets, the measured length from nut to saddle would vary from string to string. But the length from nut to 12th fret would be same for each string. And that is why scale length is 2 times the length from nut to the 12th fret. That angle on the saddle could easily account for a 1/16" difference in your measurements. That could especially true if string spacing at the saddle was different between the 2 guitars.

BTW: Here's a picture of a Martin HD-28 and the saddle is angled to the nut and frets.
http://c1.zzounds.com/media/fit,2018...dc419c9c1b.jpg

[Victory Pete]

Originally Posted by dwstout

Did you bother to look at the picture I linked to?
My point was that since on ALL the guitars I've ever owned in my 45 years of playing (Martin, Collins, Santa Cruz, Webber, Epiphone), the saddle was slightly angled to the neck and frets, the measured length from nut to saddle would vary from string to string. But the length from nut to 12th fret would be same for each string. And that is why scale length is 2 times the length from nut to the 12th fret. That angle on the saddle could easily account for a 1/16" difference in your measurements. That could especially true if string spacing at the saddle was different between the 2 guitars.

BTW: Here's a picture of a Martin HD-28 and the saddle is angled to the nut and frets.
http://c1.zzounds.com/media/fit,2018...dc419c9c1b.jpg

Scale is the same on my 2 Martin guitars, string spacing is the same, saddle angle is the same, everything is the same except the distance from nut to saddle. As I already stated Martin confirmed they changed the length. It was in 2009. Still not sure what the picture is suppose to show and how you didn't get this information before.

[dwstout]

Originally Posted by Victory Pete

Scale is the same on my 2 Martin guitars, string spacing is the same, saddle angle is the same, everything is the same except the distance from nut to saddle. As I already stated Martin confirmed they changed the length. It was in 2009. Still not sure what the picture is suppose to show and how you didn't get this information before.

The picture showed that the saddle is NOT parallel to the frets and nut.

Have a nice day.

[Victory Pete]

Originally Posted by dwstout

The picture showed that the saddle is NOT parallel to the frets and nut.

Have a nice day.

They never are! Unless it is a classical. It is called compensation. Day has been fine thanks.

Originally Posted by dwstout

The picture showed that the saddle is NOT parallel to the frets and nut.

The OP has two Martins, built a few years apart. Both have compensated (slanted) saddle slots, but the newer one has the saddle slot 1/16" further from the nut than the older one. His question was why is it different on those two guitars.

[Earl49]

I'm pretty sure that I answered this already. See post #9 on page 1. My comments are based on direct experience, not conjecture or parsing the definitions of "scale length".
No need to get all steamed up........

Originally Posted by Earl49

I believe they Plek the fingerboard now, which means they also have to put the bridge and saddle into the right place.

A PLEK setup wouldn't have anything to do with saddle or bridge placement.