Mfg...holy Cow!!!!

[chistrummer]

Originally Posted by HD18JBGuy

I have had a wonderful experience with Jon at MFG. Great guy, great prices.

They also have a great return policy.

Great return policy? if 48 hours and I pay all shipping is great than my local GC's 30 day return policy is down right amazing. And yes, they will match or beat Jon's prices. Worst part of this "great return policy" is Jon gives you no time to inspect used guitars which is where I HAVE to have an inspection period. Great return policy? Not!

[chistrummer]

Originally Posted by MaurysMusic

The comment about pricing is correct. Martin dealers are not allowed to reveal their actual prices on regular production Martin guitars, so you'll find MAP everywhere you look (if that dealer is following the rules). Customs are a different story ... we're allowed to advertise any price we want when it comes to customs. HTH

I see Jon's number one competition had to jump in this thread. As long as your discussing rules Maury, I see that every Blueridge on your site is listed below MAP and that you still don't have a showroom as required by Martin.

BTW, whats with the 15% restocking fee on Martins?

[HD18JBGuy]

Originally Posted by petelor

Great return policy? if 48 hours and I pay all shipping is great than my local GC's 30 day return policy is down right amazing. And yes, they will match or beat Jon's prices. Worst part of this "great return policy" is Jon gives you no time to inspect used guitars which is where I HAVE to have an inspection period. Great return policy? Not!

It works for me and it's my opinion. Buy from where ever you like. Until you start paying for my guitars, I can buy from wherever I like. I have bought from both GC and MFG. Never had a problem either way.

[chistrummer]

Originally Posted by blues2rock

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Online dealers such as those two I mentioned are great to a select group of people, those repeat customers and those that don't take up much of their time. But if you're a new customer, asking too many questions, that take a little while to make that investment, they're not that much special than any other dealers, in my honest opinion.

100% spot on accurate! Online dealers like Jon, Jim and Maury would be better serving their clients if they charged 5% more and spend more time with their customers.

[rmyAddison]

Originally Posted by petelor

100% spot on accurate! Online dealers like Jon, Jim and Maury would be better serving their clients if they charged 5% more and spend more time with their customers.

Dude, 3 posts and 3 attacks on members and respected merchants.......nice!

[MaurysMusic]

Originally Posted by petelor

I see Jon's number one competition had to jump in this thread.

I jumped into this thread to comment on the custom vs production model pricing. Mods, if my "following the rules" statement is out of line, please accept my apologies and delete it, or ask me to. No harm intended.

Originally Posted by petelor

As long as your discussing rules Maury, I see that every Blueridge on your site is listed below MAP and that you still don't have a showroom as required by Martin.

Both of these statements are false. Saga does not have a MAP policy and we most certainly do have a retail showroom. Why would you accuse me of these things?

Originally Posted by petelor

BTW, whats with the 15% restocking fee on Martins?

Its part of our business model. We're constantly adapting to what our market dictates, and we are open to new ideas if you have any to share... but perhaps it should be in another thread or backchannel.

[chistrummer]

Maury, according to other Blueridge dealers there is an MAP if this has changed recently than I stand corrected. As for your showroom, I was going by what's on your website.

"Retail store is temporarily closed due to renovations. Order online 24/ 7 @ www maurysmusic.com. Internet orders are still being filled daily (Mon - Fri)."

If the website info is not up to date than maybe you should update it.

[rlouie]

hey folks this thread is turning so lets stay focused............Pete, if you really want to talk to Maury about his business then you need to do it back channel..........what you are doing is in bad taste pal........

[MaurysMusic]

Originally Posted by petelor

Maury, according to other Blueridge dealers there is an MAP if this has changed recently than I stand corrected. As for your showroom, I was going by what's on your website.

"Retail store is temporarily closed due to renovations. Order online 24/ 7 @ www maurysmusic.com. Internet orders are still being filled daily (Mon - Fri)."

If the website info is not up to date than maybe you should update it.

Our website IS up to date. Remodeling our showroom does not mean we don't have a showroom. We're one of Martin's largest and most respected dealers, we're spending quite a bit of money renovating our new showroom, and I promise you we will keep our website up to date. Shall I contact you when we're ready for your visit?

Saga's contact information is on their website and I trust you'll contact them regarding their policies if you really do want to know. www.sagamusic.com

edited to say: My apologies to the OP. I should have known better than to chime in on this thread.

Thank you.

[HD18JBGuy]

Originally Posted by rmyAddison

Dude, 3 posts and 3 attacks on members and respected merchants.......nice!

Kind of what I was thinking too.

Sorry rlouie...and thanks too!

[blues2rock]

Originally Posted by petelor

Great return policy? if 48 hours and I pay all shipping is great than my local GC's 30 day return policy is down right amazing. And yes, they will match or beat Jon's prices. Worst part of this "great return policy" is Jon gives you no time to inspect used guitars which is where I HAVE to have an inspection period. Great return policy? Not!

I agree with Peterol about the return policy. A 48 hr return policy, regardless of who the dealer is, is mediocre at best. I don't know what the average is, but IMO, a great return policy is McNichols'...they give you 30 days (I think) and pay for shipping back. Next is Jim at GR, 10-15 days is nice when you're getting used to a new guitar.

[chistrummer]

Originally Posted by blues2rock

I agree with Peterol about the return policy.

I'll take what I can get.

Louie, sorry if I stepped over the line, I guess the personal attack from HD18JBguy got to me.

Now for some beers and hot wings while I watch the game.

Computer off......

[ewalling]

Originally Posted by blues2rock

I agree with Peterol about the return policy. A 48 hr return policy, regardless of who the dealer is, is mediocre at best. I don't know what the average is, but IMO, a great return policy is McNichols'...they give you 30 days (I think) and pay for shipping back. Next is Jim at GR, 10-15 days is nice when you're getting used to a new guitar.

I think although some dealers do offer what seems like a very short approval period, there is some flexibility. With one dealer recently, I asked if I could return a guitar after a week and a half that had a 72 hour approval period. Not only did they accept the guitar back, but they also refunded me in full. I didn't even ask for this (I was perfectly prepared to pay a restocking fee), but they offered it because they could see I was not simply trying out guitars. And I understand why dealers should otherwise operate a short approval time; would anyone here like to pay full price for a guitar that has been mauled by some bozo for the best part of a month?

(P.S. Thumbs up for Maury - two first rate guitars for me at great prices!)

[HD18JBGuy]

Originally Posted by petelor

I'll take what I can get.

Louie, sorry if I stepped over the line, I guess the personal attack from HD18JBguy got to me.

Now for some beers and hot wings while I watch the game.

Computer off......

Just as your personal attack got to me.