New Equipment Day

[stephenT]

I use Logic Pro and had an EVO 16 interface that replaced an old Audient iD14, but I missed the preamps of the Audient line and wasn't doing band recording any longer, sold the EVO and bought a Audient iD44 MKII.

I know other interfaces are more trendy but I don't think you can beat the Audient preamps for the bucks. The iD44 has four of the mic preamps.

My good small condenser mics were an un-matched pair of AT4041 and I added a matched stereo pair of Neumann KM 184. I've only tried recording with a single KM 184 so far, great results 10" off the upper bout treble side (a Rick Beato tip) on my Martin 00-18s.

Your favorite stereo mic-ing tips are more than welcome.

Upgraded the headphones w/ Beyerdynamic DT 700 pro X closed. Delighted to hear absolutely no bleed on the tracks.

For monitors I've owned a pair of Kali LP-8 for a few years. It's the only monitor I've used that left no guessing, mixes hold up on other formats.

Nice to get the gear squared away, more than happy w/ the Neumann KM 184s.

[runamuck]

Originally Posted by stephenT

Your favorite stereo mic-ing tips are more than welcome.

For stereo, a spaced pair is what I often use - each mic about 6" - 12" out from the guitar, about 18" between them, one pointing straight toward the 14th fret and the other toward the lower bout but pointed away from the sound hole. Depending on what else you have going on in a tune, the mics can be panned hard left and right or something different, but be careful of phase problems as panning gets closer.

I've found that with a number of other instruments in a song I'll more than likely record with just one mic toward the 14th fret. Or I'll use the stereo mic setup when the guitar is dominant and then mute the lower bout mic when other instruments come in, automating the panning.

Your guitar and room will determine exact placement.

I also record using M/S occasionally.

[KevWind]

Originally Posted by stephenT

I use Logic Pro and had an EVO 16 interface that replaced an old Audient iD14, but I missed the preamps of the Audient line and wasn't doing band recording any longer, sold the EVO and bought a Audient iD44 MKII.

I know other interfaces are more trendy but I don't think you can beat the Audient preamps for the bucks. The iD44 has four of the mic preamps.

My good small condenser mics were an un-matched pair of AT4041 and I added a matched stereo pair of Neumann KM 184. I've only tried recording with a single KM 184 so far, great results 10" off the upper bout treble side (a Rick Beato tip) on my Martin 00-18s.

Your favorite stereo mic-ing tips are more than welcome.

Upgraded the headphones w/ Beyerdynamic DT 700 pro X closed. Delighted to hear absolutely no bleed on the tracks.

For monitors I've owned a pair of Kali LP-8 for a few years. It's the only monitor I've used that left no guessing, mixes hold up on other formats.

Nice to get the gear squared away, more than happy w/ the Neumann KM 184s.

Question are you doing vocals also or guitar only

For a pair of mics there are a number of configurations spaced pair/ XY / MS etc.

For a spaced as mentioned one forward of the neck body joint and one pointed just behind and below the bridge

[jim1960]

Originally Posted by stephenT

...sold the EVO and bought a Audient iD44 MKII.

Very good choice, that's a great interface.

Originally Posted by stephenT

My good small condenser mics were an un-matched pair of AT4041 and I added a matched stereo pair of Neumann KM 184.

Don't get hung up on the "matched" thing. For recording acoustic guitars, it's really not important.

Originally Posted by stephenT

Your favorite stereo mic-ing tips are more than welcome.

Check out the "Recording Acoustic Guitar" video section on Post 18 of the stickied thread. It has a bunch of videos showing the favored techniques.

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[Rudy4]

One that gets mentioned less often is "vertical spaced pair". It's worth trying. It's most often done with a pair of mics centered over the upper bout and pointing inward.

[KevWind]

Originally Posted by Rudy4

One that gets mentioned less often is "vertical spaced pair". It's worth trying. It's most often done with a pair of mics centered over the upper bout and pointing inward.

I'm trying to picture that.
I have used the vertical position, and I do like it because it is less prone to horizontal panning anomalies i.e. me moving my guitar horizontally back and forth while playing and singing But I usually position vertically about equal distance from below the bridge to the lower bout .
Now theses are ribbons and the camera angle throws it off a bit,, but the center of the ribbon is basically in line with the bridge of the guitar and they rolled with the null pointed towards my mouth

[Rudy4]

Originally Posted by KevWind

I'm trying to picture that.
I have used the vertical position, and I do like it because it is less prone to horizontal panning anomalies i.e. me moving my guitar horizontally back and forth while playing and singing But I usually position vertically about equal distance from below the bridge to the lower bout .
Now theses are ribbons and the camera angle throws it off a bit,, but the center of the ribbon is basically in line with the bridge of the guitar and they rolled with the null pointed towards my mouth

See "6. Vertical Spaced Pair" in THIS web archive of Cakewalk's 10 examples of mic placement for acoustic guitar recording.

[KevWind]

Originally Posted by Rudy4

See "6. Vertical Spaced Pair" in THIS web archive of Cakewalk's 10 examples of mic placement for acoustic guitar recording.

Ah. got it ..ya that is more like what I have seen before also, and now I get "centered over the upper bout " as in vertically. or I guess would describe that position as centered between the sound hole and the neck joint ..Such is communication on the internets

[Rudy4]

Originally Posted by KevWind

Ah. got it ..ya that is more like what I have seen before also, and now I get "centered over the upper bout " as in vertically. or I guess would describe that position as centered between the sound hole and the neck joint ..Such is communication on the internets

Absolutely true, Kev. I try to normally post a photo but didn't have one handy. The Cakewalk link also adds a bit of verbiage to explain why it works. The original version of that article had accompanying sound files, but those have sailed into the sunset, I'm afraid.

[stephenT]

Thanks for the ideas and the excellent link to the Cakewalk's 10 examples.

[DupleMeter]

The Audient preamps are nice.

Check out this article I wrote for some ideas on stereo (and mono) techniques for recording acoustic guitars: https://www.production-expert.com/pr...in-depth-guide