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Old 03-03-2016, 11:59 PM
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Default HD-28e Sweetwater Edition

Anybody familiar with these?

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HD28SE

I just stumbled across it while looking into the HD-28e Retro (I'm in the market for a good gigging guitar).

The Sweetwater Edition looks similar except for:

- Adi top (!)
- Narrower nut (which I prefer)
- Open Gotoh tuners
- Different pickup (Fishman Ellipse blend instead of F1 Aura Plus)

I thought I had it narrowed down to a D-18e Retro or HD-28e Retro, but this one is interesting to say the least. My main concern is with the pickup - I really like the idea of the specific images in the Retro's F1 Aura Plus. But I also don't know if I like the knobs / display on the side. And I do have an Aura DI, so I could still go the image route, it just wouldn't be the specific images that are in the F1 Aura Plus.

Help?

I should also point out one con to the Sweetwater Edition: not being able to play it first. I'd much rather buy local and play first, but the specs on this guitar make it seem like it's worth a look.

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Old 03-04-2016, 01:51 AM
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Hi mwalk. I have played the "Sweetwater edition" HD28 and D18 (because I work there) They are fantastic guitars and the Adi top is very different from their "normal" counterparts with Sitka. The time I played the HD28 it had D Addario's new Nickel Bronze strings on it though which was a little different than what I am used to tone-wise.
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:23 AM
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Hi mwalk. I have played the "Sweetwater edition" HD28 and D18 (because I work there) They are fantastic guitars and the Adi top is very different from their "normal" counterparts with Sitka. The time I played the HD28 it had D Addario's new Nickel Bronze strings on it though which was a little different than what I am used to tone-wise.
I thought I was going to have an even bigger dilemma because I didn't even realize there was a D-18 version. It still has the 1.75" nut, though, and an iBeam instead of the Fishman Ellipse (I wonder why the different pickup?).

Have you by chance been able to a/b the Sweetwater HD-28 with a Standard HD-28? Acoustically and plugged in?

I'm really liking the specs on this Sweetwater edition, but it is more expensive - about $600 more than what I could get an HD-28e Retro for, and about $1000 more than the D-18e Retro. (And for that kind of price difference it may be worth dealing with the wider nut in the D-18e Retro)
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:30 PM
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I thought I was going to have an even bigger dilemma because I didn't even realize there was a D-18 version. It still has the 1.75" nut, though, and an iBeam instead of the Fishman Ellipse (I wonder why the different pickup?).

Have you by chance been able to a/b the Sweetwater HD-28 with a Standard HD-28? Acoustically and plugged in?

I'm really liking the specs on this Sweetwater edition, but it is more expensive - about $600 more than what I could get an HD-28e Retro for, and about $1000 more than the D-18e Retro. (And for that kind of price difference it may be worth dealing with the wider nut in the D-18e Retro)
I have played both but not right next to each other, and neither of them I have played plugged in. I usually play acoustics without any amp since I never play live. We have both of them in our showroom and I could certainly try out both sometime!
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Old 03-04-2016, 05:21 PM
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I have played both but not right next to each other, and neither of them I have played plugged in. I usually play acoustics without any amp since I never play live. We have both of them in our showroom and I could certainly try out both sometime!
Very kind of you to offer! I'd definitely be interested to hear your comparison, but I won't be ready to buy for another month or so. The website says there are 4 of them in stock and since I'm in IL, im actually thinking about making the drive.
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:04 PM
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I bought the D18 SWE. Great guitar! The iBeam only lasted a couple of weeks. I yanked it in favor of a JJB.

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Old 03-04-2016, 11:39 PM
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I bought the D18 SWE. Great guitar! The iBeam only lasted a couple of weeks. I yanked it in favor of a JJB.

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Yea I'm not a big iBeam fan. And I've already got a D-18. That's why HD-28 with the Fishman Ellipse is so enticing. The Adi top and better tuners is just icing on the cake!

The D-18SE has an Adi top, too, right? You like it?
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:05 AM
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Yea I'm not a big iBeam fan. And I've already got a D-18. That's why HD-28 with the Fishman Ellipse is so enticing. The Adi top and better tuners is just icing on the cake!

The D-18SE has an Adi top, too, right? You like it?
I wish Sweetwater would have installed the Fishman Ellipse Aura in the first place! The nice thing is that the Ellipse preamp of each system is held in place by a magnetic-mounting plate on the underside of guitar's top and you can easily swap-out the Fishman Ellipse Blend Preamp for a Fishman Ellipse Aura Preamp by pulling the preamp free of the mounting-plate and detaching and reattaching the 9-volt power-supply and Matrix pickup wires.
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Old 03-05-2016, 10:20 AM
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I wish Sweetwater would have installed the Fishman Ellipse Aura in the first place! The nice thing is that the Ellipse preamp of each system is held in place by a magnetic-mounting plate on the underside of guitar's top and you can easily swap-out the Fishman Ellipse Blend Preamp for a Fishman Ellipse Aura Preamp by pulling the preamp free of the mounting-plate and detaching and reattaching the 9-volt power-supply and Matrix pickup wires.
Didn't think of that - cool idea. Is there a benefit to doing it that way over using the Aura DI?
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Old 03-06-2016, 11:24 AM
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Didn't think of that - cool idea. Is there a benefit to doing it that way over using the Aura DI?
It's one less thing to trip over and one less device in the signal chain.
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Old 03-06-2016, 11:34 AM
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Good luck. I'm still waiting to get my electronics replaced. However they worked long enough last night to do a 45 min set. I have to say that it sounded super. In a small coffee house i was using 80% image through a PA and it was really impressive. I suggest you play examples of these pickup options. In a loud band, the higher image blend won't be as useful, so the Aura+ becomes less necessary. In quieter/solo situations , I'm sold on the technology.

However, if you are looking for an Adi top, the SW edition is a nice way to go.

But, understand that guitar doesn't appear to have forward shifted braces like the HD28V and HD28E Retro. It has standard placement scalloped bracing. Might not be a big deal to you.

Sweetwater is a good place to buy from. You might get good pricing with one of he sponsors, also.

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Yea I'm not a big iBeam fan. And I've already got a D-18. That's why HD-28 with the Fishman Ellipse is so enticing. The Adi top and better tuners is just icing on the cake!

The D-18SE has an Adi top, too, right? You like it?
Yes the guitar is fantastic!

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I have played both but not right next to each other, and neither of them I have played plugged in. I usually play acoustics without any amp since I never play live. We have both of them in our showroom and I could certainly try out both sometime!
Is it possible to negotiate prices with Sweetwater?
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Old 03-06-2016, 10:16 PM
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I had one 2 years ago and sold it 6 months later. Loud. Nice set up. Just not enough low end. But truly a pickers dream guitar. Loved the adi top.
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Old 03-06-2016, 10:42 PM
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But, understand that guitar doesn't appear to have forward shifted braces like the HD28V and HD28E Retro. It has standard placement scalloped bracing. Might not be a big deal to you.
Actually it does have forward shifted scalloped bracing. (Check out the spec list on the link in my OP). I believe the only differences between this and the standard HD-28 are the pickup, Adi top and tuners. Oh and the fretboard inlays.
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