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redi 04-08-2024 03:44 PM

Would you reject a guitar like this?
 
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Hi,

Bought a brand new CSF3M parlor guitar (online) to play with and thought I would put a new set of strings on it to attempt to liven it up. A couple of the bridge pins were tight. Reached inside to push them up an noticed a lot of chaff and blow-out around the bridge plate and bridge pin holes. Thought I would take a look with the phone cam (sorry for the quality).

I know bridge plates look a bit rough sometimes, but this seems a lot of tear-out. My kids have a couple of older, less expensive Yamies where the bridge plate looks way better.

Would you send one like this back? There is a return policy.

RogerPease 04-08-2024 03:52 PM

No, I would not send it back just for that.
I actually don’t think that is too bad.
YMMV, of course. Cheers, _RP

Lillis 04-08-2024 03:56 PM

Seems a little excessive but I wouldn’t think it will cause problems.

pagedr 04-08-2024 03:56 PM

That's a super chewed up bridge plate for a brand new guitar. I'm not a very picky guy and in the vast majority of the "should I send it back" threads I'm usually on the side of keep it. But in this case I would send that guitar back.

Corndog 04-08-2024 03:57 PM

Pretty surprising, being a Yamaha.
Yeah, I would return it. Not for any cosmetic reasons, but for the poor engagement of the string ball end to the plate.

Be sure to make a point of this as many online dealers will charge you for the costs of shipping it to you if it's considered an elective choice.

The last return I had from an online dealer (for damage) I insisted on a call tag for the shipper to pick it up. And I made it quite clear they were not to charge me with the initial shipping.

The issue is, and should be, between the dealer and the manufacturer.

phavriluk 04-08-2024 03:59 PM

a thought
 
One problem with mail-order buying, there's no chance to compare similar guitars (are they all this bad?). For sure, no backup was used behind the bridge pin holes to avoid this sort of ripout when the holes were drilled.

Monty Christo 04-08-2024 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phavriluk (Post 7441332)
One problem with mail-order buying, there's no chance to compare similar guitars

I've never put a mirror or a camera inside a guitar I was buying at shop -- is that part of the typical pre-purchase inspection?

redi 04-08-2024 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monty Christo (Post 7441344)
I've never put a mirror or a camera inside a guitar I was buying at shop

Bingo, me neither.

I only look if there is something odd going on at the first string change - then maybe not unless I am curious about the build inside.

Some of mine I have never looked at the bridge plate, but those that I have look way better.

phavriluk 04-08-2024 04:23 PM

a thought
 
I like to know what I'm buying. I open the hood of used cars and look around. Same idea.

Mbroady 04-08-2024 04:37 PM

Wow, never seen that on a new guitar. If you loved it, if it sounded great and you loved the way it played I would hesitate to send it back. But right from the start you want to brighten it up. So send it back.

TheGITM 04-08-2024 06:03 PM

To me, that is not a big deal at all.

mtdmind 04-08-2024 06:27 PM

I recently got a used guitar like that. I made another plate of thin wood and used double edge tape to hold it in place over the bridgeplate. It works fine, but mine was not an expensive guitar. One can get the PlateMate, too. It is the same but made of brass.

mtdmind 04-08-2024 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lillis (Post 7441328)
Seems a little excessive but I wouldn’t think it will cause problems.

It will cause intonation problems

TheGITM 04-08-2024 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtdmind (Post 7441421)
It will cause intonation problems

I would love to hear how a bridge plate can cause an intonation problem. Could you explain this, please?

Edit to add: But I agree with a simple bridge plate patch...

Bowie 04-08-2024 06:40 PM

As someone who has dealt with bad bridge plates in 20+ year old guitars, no way is that acceptable in a new guitar. Especially considering how expensive the repair is in relation to the cost of the instrument. If the ball ends find their way into the grooves they already have a big head start to creating a situation that needs attention. Not to mention the potential for cracks for form.


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