I never knew Howard didn't like hats...

I don't think Howard's issue is with hats, it's that Esteban has bought the entire PLANET'S supply of THE tonewood of the 21st century, Linden, leaving none for boutique luthiers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilia

Also, I think there is some petty deal regarding the amount of R&D budget the Hatted One has to spend which resulted in a HUGE breakthrough in fretboard material, that material being "Melamine", a flame retardant (thankfully) material also used in formica production (among other things). As a side note, China seems to be floating in the stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine

Jimmy

PS. Sorry for the total highjack

Find a really old mk??? guild classical. The best sounding but relatively inexpensive.

Right now I am leaning towards the Yamaha CG111C. I found a place with a really good price on it and asked a couple of other places if they can beat the price and they have. I love the two Yamaha steel strings that I have so I figure I can't go too wrong with one of their classicals for a starter. I am still looking though.

I am also considering two La Patrie guitars. One is the Motif with solid cedar top and mahogany back and sides and the other is the Etude with solid cedar top and cherry back and sides. Any thoughts on the La Patrie series?

I'll be very interested in what you end up with. I'm considering on switching out my Lucida (great guitar) for a regular classical or crossover. I just don't need two Flamencos and I use my Yamaha CGX 171 SCF for plugged stuff in so I'll have to keep it. Another Yamaha would get my first look, too.

Gary

Well, I ordered the Yamaha CG111C this morning. Should have it Thursday evening. Looking forward to getting it and trying my hand at learning to play some classical guitar.

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