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woodruff 06-27-2008 08:42 PM

How do I measure the nut width....?
 
hey AGFers.

I got a 1993 Gibson Hummingbird. I know Gibsons are notorious for not being consistent from model to model and year to year re guitar dimensions. But i know the website says the H-bird has a general nut width of 1 11/16. but it just feels wider. definitely wider than my wife's J-45. it feels like the width of a taylor, but much lower profile(depth). anyone know the nut width of a '93 Hummingbird off hand?

thanks!:D

ps: i like the low profile neck, but would really prefer a 1 11/16. just easier on me.

Joe's Corsage 06-27-2008 09:35 PM

go down to harbor freight and get either a cheap dial caliper for 2-3 bucks or a digital one for less than 15-20 or so.

or did you mean how to make the measurement itself? hehe. sure someone else is able to help with that in a more useful fashion than i, if so.

woodruff 06-28-2008 08:41 AM

thanks Joe. i think my local luthier guy has one of them there calipers you talk about. anyone else got a hummingbird from the 90s? has the nut width always been 1 11/16? feels wider, i swear....:D

Howard Klepper 06-28-2008 10:37 AM

Got a ruler? This isn't a high-tech measurement.

DenverSteve 06-28-2008 12:12 PM

+1 on the Ruler.

paul84 06-28-2008 01:22 PM

Excuse a silly question, but how is this measured - is it the distance from the 'outside' of the 1st and 6th strings as the 'leave' the nut? I presume its not the dimension of the nut itself.

hesson11 06-28-2008 02:02 PM

Paul, nut width is not a measurement of the string spacing. That is usually expressed as "string spacing at the nut" and is usually measured from the center of the low E string to the center of the high e string.

But you know, maybe your question is a bit tougher than a lot of us think. Do you measure the nut itself? Do you measure the very end of the fretboard, adjacent to the nut (often just ever so slightly different than the nut itself)? If the neck tapers inward toward the fretboard, do you measure the width of the fretboard or the width of the neck at its maximum. The nut itself is often tapered, so do you measure it at its widest point or as it tapers inward toward the strings.

In any event, of course, no matter how you measure it, you're lot likely to mistake a 1-11/16" nut from a 1-3/4" nut or a 1-13/16" nut. But getting a finer measurement than that could well depend on where you measure it.
-Bob

paul84 06-28-2008 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hesson11 (Post 1518850)
Paul, nut width is not a measurement of the string spacing. That is usually expressed as "string spacing at the nut" and is usually measured from the center of the low E string to the center of the high e string.
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-Bob

Thanks - I would expect that the string spacing at the nut is the measure that makes the difference for me then. Just curious about why everyone is so concerned about nut width - surely spacing is the real deal?

Chazmo 06-28-2008 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul84 (Post 1518816)
Excuse a silly question, but how is this measured - is it the distance from the 'outside' of the 1st and 6th strings as the 'leave' the nut? I presume its not the dimension of the nut itself.

Not a silly question at all. I am not positive, but I believe "nut width" refers to the base of the nut from outside-to-outside -- nothing to do with string placement. I.e., the width of the neck. Slide a flat ruler under the strings of the first fret, and read from from the two outside edges of the nut.

DenverSteve 06-28-2008 03:14 PM

It is usually expressed "neck width at nut". You measure the nut from it's outer edges. As mentioned earlier not all 1 3/4" nuts give the same string separation.

K III 09-24-2009 10:34 AM

so if it is really the fretboard width, I would think that has a much lesser impact on playability than string spacing at nut and bridge.

How do you builders measure it? (and please don't bring the ruler up again:D)

Karl

Troisnoir 09-24-2009 11:57 AM

Nut width determines the limitations of string spacing, so it does matter.
Also, if you liked narrower string spacing, just recutting the nut doesn't always do it...you still have to deal with the neck width, which the nut width corresponds to.

Brackett Instruments 09-24-2009 12:45 PM

Don't measure it. If it's comfortable it's comfortable, and if it isn't it isn't.

gregg 09-24-2009 04:02 PM

It could feel wider because of the shape/depth of the neck.....or the string spacing could be a tad wider on the same width nut, it doesn't take much of a difference in string spacing to make a big difference in the feel of the guitar. I measure the nut width at the front, lower edge of the nut, outside edge to outside edge, which for me is the same width as the fretboard at the same location.

Cheers,

Jeff M 09-24-2009 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Klepper (Post 1518671)
Got a ruler? This isn't a high-tech measurement.

:lol:
Depends on who is trying to use it. :p

FWIW, it is not unusual for nut widths to be a "bit" off the stated width.


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