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joshsimpson79 08-27-2010 06:01 PM

Used 1998 414ce. Worth it?
 
I found this on craigslist. It's in really good shape apart from some dings by the pegs. What do you think?

http://http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/msg/1910585905.html

leeasam 08-27-2010 06:13 PM

hard to say. I know about 2 years ago a major shop offered $xxx for trade on a 2000 410CE of a co worker and it was in as good or better shape. I am sure he would have tried to sell for around 1100. If you could play it in person first and it felt good and all I would be comfy at maybe $75 less than asking price.

guitpic 08-27-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by joshsimpson79 (Post 2328790)
I found this on craigslist. It's in really good shape apart from some dings by the pegs. What do you think?

http://http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/msg/1910585905.html

With acoustic guitars, to me anyway, the key is to spend some time with them playing them.

The guitar might be great acoustically....and that's what you are buying....an acoustic guitar.

You need to play it first to find out.

Electronics are the frosting on the cake if the guitar sounds good to you live.

:)

joshsimpson79 08-27-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by leeasam (Post 2328806)
hard to say. I know about 2 years ago a major shop offered $xxx for trade on a 2000 410CE of a co worker and it was in as good or better shape. I am sure he would have tried to sell for around 1100. If you could play it in person first and it felt good and all I would be comfy at maybe $75 less than asking price.

Thanks. I plan to drive there to play it. It's about an hour twenty minute drive. In the email I asked if they would accept $xxx so we'll see.

guitpic 08-27-2010 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by joshsimpson79 (Post 2328820)
Thanks. I plan to drive there to play it. It's about an hour twenty minute drive. In the email I asked if they would accept $xxx so we'll see.

$xxx is a good price with or without electronics.

Best of luck. Let us know what happens.

If this guitar speaks to you...it's worth buying.

DenverSteve 08-27-2010 08:20 PM

The asking price probably fine. If they are like me, they won't entertain any "offers" until you are there and played the instrument - otherwise it's moot. Go play it and it will be worth that amount to you or not. If it is try to get it as cheap as possible. If not, drive home. But remember that you have already now made an offer.

stream 08-27-2010 09:49 PM

With those cosmetic issues I would probably avoid it, especially with it being 12 years old. I recently bought a 2005 414ce for about $125 less. I'd keep shopping if I were you. Unless, of course, playing before buying is a necessity.

Edit: With that said, somewhere slightly below the asking price is probably accurate "private party" value for a guitar with those cosmetics. I just happened to get a great deal on a no-issues one. You probably won't find one that cheap unless you get really lucky.

joshsimpson79 08-27-2010 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stream (Post 2328986)
With those cosmetic issues I would probably avoid it, especially with it being 12 years old. I recently bought a 2005 414ce for about $125 less. I'd keep shopping if I were you. Unless, of course, playing before buying is a necessity.

Where did you find this deal? Where do you guys recommend looking or shopping besides places like Guitar Center?

stream 08-28-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by joshsimpson79 (Post 2329065)
Where did you find this deal? Where do you guys recommend looking or shopping besides places like Guitar Center?

Found that one on Craigslist, I believe. Be very, very careful with any deals on there. That's where you'll find the best deals, but also the most risk.

wthurman 08-28-2010 10:13 AM

Cosmetics, Coschmetics. If it sounds and plays great, the cosmetics can be fixed at your convenience (and your cost). I sent a 1999 514CE to Pat DiBurro for a neck and body refinish, and it was very close to like new (he has the same UV finish that Taylor uses as he offers warranty service). By close, I mean that without the aging/darkening of the cedar top you never would know.

joshsimpson79 08-28-2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stream (Post 2328986)
With those cosmetic issues I would probably avoid it, especially with it being 12 years old. I recently bought a 2005 414ce for about $125 less. I'd keep shopping if I were you. Unless, of course, playing before buying is a necessity.

Edit: With that said, somewhere slightly below the asking price is probably accurate "private party" value for a guitar with those cosmetics. I just happened to get a great deal on a no-issues one. You probably won't find one that cheap unless you get really lucky.

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Originally Posted by wthurman (Post 2329367)
Cosmetics, Coschmetics. If it sounds and plays great, the cosmetics can be fixed at your convenience (and your cost). I sent a 1999 514CE to Pat DiBurro for a neck and body refinish, and it was very close to like new (he has the same UV finish that Taylor uses as he offers warranty service). By close, I mean that without the aging/darkening of the cedar top you never would know.

I'm not too worried about cosmetics as I can fix it later. I'm a music minister, so it's in my budget at this time, it's likely an upgrade from what I play now, so I'll at least give it a play if they return my email.

royd 08-28-2010 01:30 PM

I don't think the cosmetics are even really a cosmetic issue. for a 12 year old guitar, it looks to be in excellent shape. those few tiny dings on the headstock are nothing. The price strikes me as being a very good one, if you're happy with the electronics. If not, it still may be a reasonable price... swapping to the new Taylor electronics costs about 300 plus shipping I think

joshsimpson79 08-28-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by royd (Post 2329540)
I don't think the cosmetics are even really a cosmetic issue. for a 12 year old guitar, it looks to be in excellent shape. those few tiny dings on the headstock are nothing. The price strikes me as being a very good one, if you're happy with the electronics. If not, it still may be a reasonable price... swapping to the new Taylor electronics costs about 300 plus shipping I think

What's the difference in the newer electronics? Sonically, I mean. I understand the physical differences.

macfawlty 08-30-2010 02:49 PM

I thought the used older 414 I played at GC sounded better than the new ones. The price is just ok. A hundred less is more in line.

stream 08-30-2010 04:09 PM

What's that business going on to the right of the 19th and 20th frets? Is that just a reflection? Earlier I was assuming that was some kind of finish issue. If not, then the price is probably pretty good, although that's where it "should" be for a 1998 model.


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